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Cardinal Burke: ‘Very Grave Problem of Homosexual Culture in the Church
Breitbart ^ | Nolte

Posted on 08/17/2018 8:40:24 AM PDT by wardaddy

Cardinal Raymond Burke has called for “open recognition” of the Catholic church’s homosexual culture in light of recent revelations of sexual abuse. “I believe that there needs to be an open recognition that we have a very grave problem of a homosexual culture in the Church,” Burke said in an interview Thursday, “especially among the clergy and the hierarchy, that needs to be addressed honestly and efficaciously.”

he former head of the church’s equivalent of the Supreme Court said it was already “clear after the studies following the 2002 sexual abuse crisis that most of the acts of abuse were in fact homosexual acts committed with adolescent young men.”

“There was a studied attempt to either overlook or to deny this,” he said, referring to the mainstream media cover-up of the homosexual nature of the abuse as well as such denial within the church itself.

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To: aMorePerfectUnion; annalex

As we have seen, assertions and insults are all the Catholics have.

That and magical thinking without any proof of Scripture for their anti-Apostolic dogma.


581 posted on 08/26/2018 12:01:36 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Elsie
In all honesty; there is a strain in Protestantism that implies: We are "saved by grace" but then "KEPT" by works: we must keep DOING good works; or else we'll LOSE our salvation.

Sadly, there are many who are ignorant of Scripture. A lot of religions - not just Christian-flavored ones - are based upon the person needing to merit or deserve the positive endgame. It could be heaven, Nirvana or Happy-Hunting-Grounds, but you must be worthy through your own efforts to get there. Some of them even say you have to go through multiple lives! The glorious Gospel of true Christianity is that you cannot POSSIBLY earn, deserve or merit eternity in heaven with Almighty God and that is why it is by grace through faith that we are saved. It is the GIFT of God, not by works lest anyone should boast. Jesus Christ is our Redeemer. He bore all our sins upon the cross and by His suffering and death, He made propitiation for our sins and we are found IN Him having HIS righteousness and not our own. That same grace keeps us saved because it was never based upon our works in the first place!

I don't understand why some don't get it that it doesn't matter if you say we are saved by grace but kept by works or you are saved by your works are actually saying the SAME thing. When you add ANYTHING that we do into the equation, you are negating grace.

But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. (Romans 11:6)

582 posted on 08/26/2018 12:07:36 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: annalex; Mark17; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; MHGinTN
I did not provide a summary. I posted them in the context of the statement in 503, where, perhaps due the Protestant ignorance of the Holy Scripture, these passages are said to be a "blaring contradiction" and "double-speak". Roman Catholic double-speak that says we are "saved by grace" but then "judged according to our works" You are right that confirmed Catholics are called to explain the Holy Scripture but not to interpret it. I am a confirmed Catholic. If another confirmed Catholic wishes to bring my "summaries" into question, I'd be happy to discuss and ready to stand corrected.

Well, I was a "confirmed Catholic" and I am not ignorant of the Holy Scriptures. I'd like to hear how you "discuss" the contradiction/misuse of the Scriptures you posted that I presume you think defend (they really don't) the idea that grace saves us but our works are what we will be judged worthy to merit heaven. Like I said, I was a Catholic and I know what I was taught and I know what the Catechism still says. If our works justify us before God, then our works are what saves us. But Scripture repeatedly states that we are saved by the grace of God through faith and NOT by our works. Are you really ready to withstand correction or am I disqualified because I left Roman Catholicism?

583 posted on 08/26/2018 12:47:56 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: boatbums
But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. (Romans 11:6)

Romans 5 in the Greek really drives home the point that it is God Who saves us.....nothing we contribute to our salvation.

584 posted on 08/26/2018 12:55:48 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: metmom
And the effect is never that those things are sanctified but rather they lead away into idolatry, as happened time and again in Israel.

The tendency of man is to make even the instruments of His grace into objects of devotion which only belongs to God.

He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan. (2 Kings 18:4)

585 posted on 08/26/2018 1:00:42 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone; annalex; boatbums

You can forgive annalex for not knowing what the Word of God so clearly states. Catholic religion followers are not encouraged to be like the Bereans ... too much is discovered that contradicts the man-made part of that religion, catholiciism. Catholicism is not Christianity, it is catholiciism, the religion of traditions of men who have ruled in that religion.


586 posted on 08/26/2018 1:18:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Luircin

Magical thinking? Pffft, catholiciism is supposedly led by their Magicstearingthem. That group even picks the Popes, like the one they pick last!


587 posted on 08/26/2018 1:24:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

+1


588 posted on 08/26/2018 1:37:23 PM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: boatbums
Roman Catholic double-speak that says we are "saved by grace" but then "judged according to our works".

That statement by itself is not a contradiction, as indeed the believer is saved by grace thru but then "judged according to our works" as testifying to whether one was of true salvific faith in life and in his death.

Roman Catholic double-speak is that of saying they believe in being "saved by grace" while meaning that by the grace of God one actually becomes good enough in heart and life to be with God*, versus being accounted righteous by heart-purifying faith in the washing of regeneration.

And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. (Acts 11:13-14)

To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Acts 10:43)

And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. (Acts 15:7-9)

Such as one is washed, sanctified and justified (1Co. 6:11) and accepted in the Beloved, and seated with Him in Heaven (Eph. 1:6; 2:6) wherein he has access with boldness into the holy of holies to meet with God. (Heb. 10:19)

And who will go to forever with the Lord at death or at His return, (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) And the next transformative experience that is manifestly taught is that of being like Christ in the resurrection. (1Jn. 3:2; Rm. 8:23; 1Co 15:53,54; 2Co. 2-4)At which time is the judgment seat of Christ, which is the only suffering after this life, which does not begin at death, but awaits the Lord's return, (1 Corinthians 4:5; 2 Timothy. 4:1,8; Revelation 11:18; Matthew 25:31-46; 1 Peter 1:7; 5:4) and is the suffering of the loss of rewards (and the Lord's displeasure) due to the manner of material one built the church with, which one is saved despite the loss of such, not because of. (1 Corinthians 3:8ff)

Of course, such a believer is only one who dies in effectual faith, one which manifests "things that accompany salvation," (Heb. 6:9) versus denying the faith, (cf. 1Tim. 5:8)

However, while the effect of faith is the basis for declaring one to be a believer, (Mt. 7:20; Ja. 2:18; 1 Thessalonians 1:4) and fit to be recompensed in grace, (Mt. 25:32-40) the effect is not the cause of justification as one accepted in the Beloved, which is on His account, appropriated by faith. And who will be conformed to Christ in the resurrection.

In contrast, is RC Purgatory in which, besides atoning for sins one did not receive enough chastisement for, one becomes actually good enough to be with God. which premise either requires perfection of character in this life (and which merely being made clean in baptism would actually not effect) or postmortem purifying torments.

The Catholic Encyclopedia states that St. Augustine "describes two conditions of men; "some there are who have departed this life, not so bad as to be deemed unworthy of mercy, nor so good as to be entitled to immediate happiness" etc.

And thus by the close of the fourth century was taught "a place of purgation..from which when purified they "were admitted unto the Holy Mount of the Lord". For " they were "not so good as to be entitled to eternal happiness". - CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Purgatory

Likewise Catholic professor Peter Kreeft states,

"...we will go to Purgatory first, and then to Heaven after we are purged of all selfishness and bad habits and character faults." Peter Kreeft, Because God Is Real: Sixteen Questions, One Answer, p. 224

589 posted on 08/26/2018 2:18:02 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone
Romans 5 in the Greek really drives home the point that it is God Who saves us.....nothing we contribute to our salvation.

I was in awe to learn about the Greek word used for "never" in John 10:28 when Jesus said He gives us eternal life and we shall never perish or be snatched from His hands.

590 posted on 08/26/2018 3:02:51 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: ealgeone
Why did Smith change the Name of the Church after God already told him 4 years before what to name it?

"In June, 1829, the Lord gave us the name by which we must call the church, being the same as He gave the Nephites. We obeyed His commandment, and called it The Church of Christ until 1834, when, through the influence of Sydney Rigdon, the name of the church was changed to The Church of the Latter Day Saints,...

...dropping out the name of Christ entirely..." ! ! !

(An Address to All Believers In Christ Witmer, p. 73)

591 posted on 08/26/2018 3:05:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Why did Smith change the Name of the Church after God already told him 4 years before what to name it? "In June, 1829, the Lord gave us the name by which we must call the church, being the same as He gave the Nephites. We obeyed His commandment, and called it The Church of Christ until 1834, when, through the influence of Sydney Rigdon, the name of the church was changed to The Church of the Latter Day Saints,...

...dropping out the name of Christ entirely..." ! ! !

(An Address to All Believers In Christ Witmer, p. 73)

592 posted on 08/26/2018 3:13:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone; Normandy; teppe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Whitmer
 
http://latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100023.pdf
 
 
"Joseph looked into the hat in which he placed the stone, and received a revelation that some of the brethren should go to Toronto, Canada, and that they would sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon.
 Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery went to Toronto on this mission, but they failed entirely to sell the copyright, returning without any money.
Joseph was at my father's house when they returned.
 I was there also, and am an eye witness to these facts. Jacob Whitmer and John Whitmer were also present when Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery returned from Canada.
Well, we were all in great trouble; and we asked Joseph how it was that he had received a revelation from the Lord for some brethren to go to Toronto and sell the copyright, and the brethren had utterly failed in their undertaking.
Joseph did not know how it was, so he enquired of the Lord about it, and behold the following revelation came through the stone:
 
 'Some revelations are of God: some revelations are of men: and some revelations are of the devil.'
 
So we see that the revelation to go to Toronto and sell the copyright was not of God, but was of the devil or of the heart of man."
 
David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, in EMD 5: 198. 
 
 
 

593 posted on 08/26/2018 3:13:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
I am a confirmed Catholic.

I am a confused protestant.

What does your statement MEAN?

594 posted on 08/26/2018 3:15:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
18“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18 NASB

You have OBVIOUSLY not read the addendum to the scriptures; known as TRADITION; that states:

...or does not follow the other rules set forth by the Only True Church that Jesus founded upon the great man Peter.

595 posted on 08/26/2018 3:18:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

Amazingly; this was the main subject in SS class today!


596 posted on 08/26/2018 3:20:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
But..

...the book of JAMES says...

597 posted on 08/26/2018 3:26:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

https://www.christiandataresources.com/jamescanon.htm


598 posted on 08/26/2018 3:31:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
The tendency of man is to make even the instruments of His grace into objects of devotion which only belongs to God.

You make Mary cry...



599 posted on 08/26/2018 3:34:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Cool!


600 posted on 08/26/2018 3:39:16 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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