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Bill your posts are superb but lost on these guys

They exist through the prism of racial grievance and atonement

Who knows who they are really...or why they are here

The school of Zinn and Macpherson

Thanks for the praise.

Did you catch the reply, where our antagonist--perhaps unwittingly--confirmed my point about the toxic disrespect, by injecting intended insulting terminology in reference to the Southern leadership? I mean, really, over a century and a half, after the slave issue ceased to be contemporary, still hissing insult at those, he claimed were morally supposed to continue the original federal partnership?

While we can speculate on the actual motives of those who simply refuse to dispense with the active war on your heritage, it is very clear that it is basically a verbal exercise to them. The type of argument employed is always a form of verbal quibbling over cherry picked incidents--as opposed to a dynamic, ongoing view of the continuing interaction of the players.

All I am saying is that the miscategorization of those incidents is totally unnecessary, if they really had a point to make; but very revealing as to the emotional tangent behind the persistent word games.

Ohioan: "The "union" was an attempt to accomplish specific functions.
The specific functions -- which did not include one faction imposing its will on internal affairs on another -- became virtually impossible with the decline in mutual respect, and a common identity."

wardaddy: "Bill your posts are superb but lost on these guys.
They exist through the prism of racial grievance and atonement.
Who knows who they are really...or why they are here."

Total nonsense, wardaddy.
We are here for one reason and one reason only: to correct the many lies you people keep posting.
That's it: if you stop lying, we're gone.
We're not here to attack you, or the South or anybody else, except to correct the Lost Causer lies you people tell.

As for Ohioan's comments here: the United States was founded by leaders who believed slavery was on the road to natural, gradual abolition, as indeed appeared obvious in 1787.
As late as 1832 there were serious debates in Virginia on abolition.
But they came to nothing and that was among the earliest breaks with Founders' original intent.
In 1834 the Brits abolished slavery in their empire and many Americans began asking, "why not here too?"

In the mean time slavery became the nation's single biggest economic force, allowing the US to dominate global cotton markets.
And so, as the cries for abolition became ever louder, the interests in protecting slavery grew ever stronger.

Irresistible force meet immovable object...