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Is it time to panic about land expropriation?
News24 ^ | 2018-08-01 10:45 | Melanie Verwoerd

Posted on 08/02/2018 8:55:05 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

I have had a deal with a few of my friends who are farmers, that I will tell them when it is time to panic about the proposed expropriation without compensation. Until then, I advised them to relax.

Last night after President Cyril Ramaphosa's address to the nation in which he announced the ANC's decision to propose an amendment to the Constitution to expropriate without compensation, I got many texts asking: "Is it time yet?"

Let me say upfront that I think the ANC has been handling the land debate very clumsily (to put it politely). It is clear that the narrative has consistently been running away from them and every time in an attempt to regain control, they seem to cause more confusion and anxiety with investors as well as current property owners.

So, is it the end of the road for property rights as many are predicting today?

I don't think so.

It is important to remember that the ANC has always been clear that they could expropriate without compensation, therefore the constitutional amendment is intended to only clarify the current provision.

Of course, it is crucial to first see what these clarifications will be, and it is a real pity that the president did not again emphasise in his address last night what they intend and perhaps more importantly what they DON'T intend to do.

Ramaphosa's answers earlier this year in Parliament as well as ANC policy documents clearly indicate that the governing party does not intend to expropriate people's homes or productive farm land. They are talking about very specific instances of derelict buildings, unproductive farm land, land obtained through illegal means, etc. They are also adamant that it will be done on a case by case basis and not through a general blanket land grab

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To: Zhang Fei

Whites in South Africa are getting close to the status of Jews in 1930’s Germany. When the economy finally collapses, they will be made the scapegoats and subject to mass murder.


21 posted on 08/02/2018 9:18:37 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It rubs the rainbow on itÂ’s skin or it gets the diversity again!")
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To: EinNYC
I hope the white farmers salt the land liberally as they pull away for a better place to live, out of South Africa. Even if they didn’t, the ignorants taking their land will turn it from a fertile food producer to a dustbowl.

Yep. Look at Zimbabwe for a precedent. It wouldn't have mattered if Rhodesian farmers had salted the land when they left. The new "owners" would be just as productive in either case.

22 posted on 08/02/2018 9:19:30 AM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: Zhang Fei

Well, who knows what the politicians intend to do.

IMHO regarding politicians, anything left unsaid, is left unsaid for a reason.


23 posted on 08/02/2018 9:19:31 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Dead On

“Don’t worry, Darlings. When they come to cut your head off, they’ll be quite polite”


24 posted on 08/02/2018 9:19:35 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Snickering Hound

Tito’s: made in Texas:

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25 posted on 08/02/2018 9:23:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I owned some shares in South African miners a good while before the ANC announced this initiative. The moment it came out, several months ago, I bailed out of those shares.

Namibia is the most stable country on the African continent.
Namibia Rare Earths (NRE.V, NMREF) is a good miner to look at.

26 posted on 08/02/2018 9:26:21 AM PDT by chud
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To: Zhang Fei
So, is it the end of the road for property rights as many are predicting today?

I don't think so.

Plain old garden-variety idiot or useful idiot.....you decide.

27 posted on 08/02/2018 9:26:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Is not crap like this something the UN is allegedly supposed to be fighting against???


28 posted on 08/02/2018 9:28:32 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Zhang Fei

The ANC considers all white land stolen from the natives, so it is ALL subject to confiscation and redistribution.


29 posted on 08/02/2018 9:31:40 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Zhang Fei

Past time.

Either get ready to leave after burning it all to the ground, or get ready to fight for your life.

Honestly, it is probably to late to flee.


30 posted on 08/02/2018 9:33:18 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Zhang Fei

It’s a given that the land will be taken. Just pray they don’t kill you while they do it. SA is dead.


31 posted on 08/02/2018 9:36:09 AM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw
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To: Zhang Fei

Heat the water to boil the lobster slowly and less lobsters will try to escape.


32 posted on 08/02/2018 9:44:28 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Melanie, it appears, is a complete idiot. If others are actually trusting her they are even dumber.


33 posted on 08/02/2018 9:47:40 AM PDT by Notthereyet (Notthereyet)
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To: Zhang Fei

Melanie’s safe enough - she’s ANC. These expropriations are being excused as acts of social justice but in fact they’re a cash cow for the ruling party, whose members “redistribute” the land by becoming absentee landlords. It’s all about the Party, all about the money, and a little racial violence is just icing on the cake.


34 posted on 08/02/2018 9:53:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Zhang Fei
Why do they need this amendment anyway?

To plunder.

Meet the EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters). A popular chant of their's at public rallies, is "Kill the Boer (Kill the Farmer)".


35 posted on 08/02/2018 10:01:23 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Zhang Fei

There won’t be panic. Stealing from Whitey, and then killing Whitey is perfectly OK with the left.


36 posted on 08/02/2018 10:01:56 AM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hypocritical hysteria: Manafort/Russia Probe again!)
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To: I want the USA back

[There won’t be panic. Stealing from Whitey, and then killing Whitey is perfectly OK with the left.]


The Boers imported cheap black labor for centuries. They should either have integrated the blacks or expelled them way back when and kept them out. But they wanted their cheap labor and apartheid laws. Their descendants are now paying the price.

South Africa is what the South would be today if the South had won the Civil War. Union victory came at a terrible price, but it paved the way for millions of white settlers from Europe, and the movement of freed black slaves to the north such that the blacks stopped being a majority in southern states.


37 posted on 08/02/2018 10:22:49 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.)
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To: gasport

Melanie Verwoerd
38 posted on 08/02/2018 10:25:18 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Zhang Fei

South Africans openly show that they are fully supportive of racial oppression, just so long as the “good” group gets to abuse and murder the “bad” group. That’s SOOOO different from the KKK, the Nazis, the Khmer Rouge, the Soviets, the Maoists, and every other evil group in history. Ahem.


39 posted on 08/02/2018 10:38:05 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Zhang Fei
paved the way for millions of white settlers from Europe, and the movement of freed black slaves to the north such that the blacks stopped being a majority in southern states.

Ummm, blacks were only the majority in SC (58%) and MS (55%) in 1860... which was still the case three generations later in 1920 (51 and 52%, respectively), and then those numbers started to fall under 50% in 1930. Seems like it didn't change much at all.

It wasn't until after WWII that only Mississippi was above 40% black (49% in 1940, down to 37% in 1970). Blaming the Civil War for migrations that mostly happened between WWI and WWII seems ludicrous.

40 posted on 08/02/2018 10:47:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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