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To: Navy Patriot

I don’t support them using the handicapped space even for one minute. Still, that’s not an crime where the perp is exposed to capital punishment as a result.

If I came out of a place and someone was in my wife’s face cursing her out, I might use physical means to separate them. That is also not a crime where the pusher is exposed to a capital punishment.

As for standing his ground, the people standing their ground were the two who had chosen to park where they shouldn’t. It was none of the business of this man that sought to take them to task. He should have gone about his business and left them alone. It’s up to law enforcement to take them to task.

When he walked up and engaged the female of the two, she was standing her ground. He was the one who approached.

I have very little sympathy for the guy that allowed himself to get too angry about the parking infraction, took matters into his own hands to give the female of the two grief over it, and then objected to the male figure separating the two of them by pushing him away.

Pulling a weapon and shooting a man who pushed you away from yelling at his wife, just doesn’t seem warranted to me.

This escalated solely due to the man jumping in where he shouldn’t have, and I think a judge sooner or later will come to that same conclusion.


32 posted on 07/23/2018 8:35:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have very little sympathy for the guy that allowed himself to get too angry about the parking infraction, took matters into his own hands to give the female of the two grief over it, and then objected to the male figure separating the two of them by pushing him away.

Pulling a weapon and shooting a man who pushed you away from yelling at his wife, just doesn’t seem warranted to me.


Have you watched the video? Your description of what happened does not bear much resemblance to the video I saw.


86 posted on 07/23/2018 9:00:06 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have very little sympathy for the guy that allowed himself to get too angry about the parking infraction, took matters into his own hands to give the female of the two grief over it, and then objected to the male figure separating the two of them by pushing him away.

Pulling a weapon and shooting a man who pushed you away from yelling at his wife, just doesn’t seem warranted to me.

This escalated solely due to the man jumping in where he shouldn’t have, and I think a judge sooner or later will come to that same conclusion.

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Making up facts won’t make it so. There is a video, I suggest you watch it. The man that got pushed to the ground was pushed so hard that he was actually lifted off the ground, he hit hard and the fall could have killed him or at least caused permanent physical damage.

The guy that got pushed never touched anyone, he simply pointed out she was parking in a handicapped space, no crime in that. If it had been a person with no chip on shoulder she would have probably said she was sorry and would be leaving in just a minute. Instead she had to get out of the car to pick a fight with the guy so her old man, baby daddy or whatever could have a chance to get even with the old white guy. If the guy watches the parking space day in and day out there is nothing wrong with it, perhaps he will keep the space free for someone who needs it.

Black guy is dead but black guy, baby mama both helped that to happen.

If the baby daddy had come out and told the old white guy to go bug off or just ignored him, every body would still be happy.

If you do something stupid you are liable to get something stupid.


174 posted on 07/23/2018 9:40:48 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: DoughtyOne
Sorry Doughty, Stand Your Ground is a legal construct that applies to the exchange of violence only.

It has no application in verbal exchanges that do not contain Assaults (the Threat of Violence). A scofflaw cannot "Stand His Ground" and be protected by law from ANY individual that chooses to inform him he is in violation of the law. Neither McGlockton nor his girlfriend were Standing Their Ground.

Additionally, Drejka did not approach the girlfriends car closely indicating no physical intent, and the girlfriend did not allege any threatening language, let alone language that would be considered Assault. Only at that level would Stand Your Ground be applicable to the girlfriend, that she would not be required to retreat.

In actuality the girlfriend exited the car (and could do so because Drejka was nowhere near the door or her), and approached Drejka because her Mob had returned to back her up and the standard Mob attack ensued with her largest Mob muscle immediately using life threatening violence to knock Drejka into the Stomp position.

The McGlockton initiated, life threatening violence only then triggered Stand Your Ground, for the benefit of Drejka, although retreat was impossible for him anyway as he was helpless on the ground, EXCEPT FOR HIS LEGALLY CARRIED PISTOL, which he drew and fired, being reasonably in fear of his life.

That he fired only one shot and did not shoot the girlfriend or McGlockton in the back running away attests to the fact that he discontinued using all force when the threat was neutralized.

If anything, the girlfriend should be charged as being an accessory to the assault and battery.

201 posted on 07/23/2018 9:53:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: DoughtyOne

“It was none of the business of this man that sought to take them to task. He should have gone about his business and left them alone. It’s up to law enforcement to take them to task.”

Meh, I think this kind of thinking just adds to the deterioration we see in society. People used to speak up if they saw people doing something wrong or unacceptable, and people would usually be shamed into complying with the rules.

Nowadays, everyone is too afraid of offending someone to say anything, and there is never a cop around to actually “take them to task”.


210 posted on 07/23/2018 9:57:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DoughtyOne

First, we do not know what the shooter said, how he said it, how loud he was,etc. Hence, it is irresponsible for you do drone on and on about how the guy should be charged. I would note that the average person viewing the entire video would assume that the shooter was elderly. He’s actually 47, which suggests he has some disability, which is perhaps why he is sensitive about illegal parking. Second, the female obviously was not scared of him, as she jumped out of the car, apparently to get in his face, only to have her boyfriend bumrush him. Third, I don’t think there is a person in the world who thinks this guy didn’t have a right to pull the gun out. Clearly, he had every right to brandish the gun. The issue to focus on is did he actually feel threatened after the deceased started to back up? I need more information. Was he groggy from being knocked down? Did he get startled? One thing I note in the video is that he first points the gun at THE WOMAN, suggesting that she had made a threat to him.


350 posted on 07/23/2018 11:59:35 AM PDT by bort
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