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Victim's girlfriend says Florida gunman provoked fatal 'stand your ground' shooting
ABC News ^ | July 2, 2018 | Karma Allen

Posted on 07/23/2018 8:14:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

Britany Jacobs, the girlfriend of the man shot and killed in a Florida parking lot last week, says her boyfriend was just coming to her defense and the gunman “wanted someone to be angry at.” Now she wants “justice,” she says.

Jacobs, who witnessed the shooting along with the couple’s 5-year-old son, said she and her two small children were waiting in the car for her boyfriend, Markeis McGlockton, while he ran into a convenience store in Clearwater, Florida. Onlooker Michael Drejka got out of his parked car and began “harassing” her about being parked in a handicap space, she said.

Surveillance video showed McGlockton exiting the store and shoving Drejka to the ground. Drejka then drew a handgun and shot and killed McGlockton.

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To: chris37

No he wasn’t.


361 posted on 07/23/2018 12:18:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: wardaddy

Agreed...


362 posted on 07/23/2018 12:19:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Cubs Fan

I’m firmly on the side of people using good judgment when they use their weapons, so the Left doesn’t have a legitimate excuse for objecting to concealed carry.

Why do I have to spell that out for you?

I had no problem with the Trayvon or Brown shootings.

This guy had been trolling this very parking lot for months threatening to kill people.

Too bad he wasn’t reported before this.


363 posted on 07/23/2018 12:23:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: afterhoursarmory
He waited until boyfriend went into the store before kicking this whole thing off and I would expect the boyfriend to act that way; I would if I came out of the store and my wife is being berated.

I can;t believe how many fools are peddling this BS. You don't get to viciously throw someone to the ground because they are TALKING to your girlfriend. THERE IS NO SUCH LEGAL RIGHT ANYWHERE IN THE LAW. QUIT PRETENDING THERE IS.

What a bunch if idiot libs here today making up law that doesn't exist to suit their thug excusing agenda.

364 posted on 07/23/2018 12:24:11 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Good intentions? Most leftists would throw every one of us in Gulag if they could get away with it)
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To: DoughtyOne

Do you really want to sling someone into the pavement for no reason?

Do you believe a person speaking to your girlfriend justifies you committing a violent felony against him?

What if the person you do that to has a gun?

What if that person with a gun shoots you in the heart with it?

Maybe that person who shot you in the heart will get a Manslaughter charge and do five years with good time. Maybe he won’t be charged at all.

But whatever the case, you’re swimming in a pool of your own blood on the floor of a convenient store in front of your son watching him fade away as you cross The Veil.

Shoulda stayed in bed that day.


365 posted on 07/23/2018 12:24:27 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: chris37
The store and its lot is private property. If the owner of that property had a problem with the man’s behavior, then it’s up to them to have him removed and barred.

You are correct, and it is common practice.

Owners of property open to the public regularly use bans and court orders to exclude disorderly or abusive persons who have or have not committed infractions of the law, from their commercial properties.

I have done this several times.

If Drejka was even slightly abusive, he could have been banned from the property.

However, it does require a statement under oath regarding the abusive behavior.

Rumor and gossip only require a screen name.

366 posted on 07/23/2018 12:25:17 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: DoughtyOne

Again, “just the facts mam”.

You said-

On this thread it is revealed the 47 year old had confronted others frequently about parking spaces in the lot, threatening violence, and even to kill people.

I don’t think it’s out of line to extrapolate what this guy was doing here.

Shooting a guy who is turning to leave, is not a good shoot.

You tell me to hold to, “...just the facts mam, just the facts...”, and then you tell me about the shooter being justified because he thought the Black guy was going for a gun.

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Hold on, I NEVER said the guy was justified in shooting, I even said I didn’t think I would have shot. So again, please, just the facts.

I don’t know where you got that he was turning to leave, as I look at it there was not enough time between turning away and being struck, he may actually have turned as he was struck, I don’t know that anyone asked him if he was leaving or not. After watching the vid several times I can’t tell exactly when shot was fired.

I don’t know where you get that he had even killed people but the story says he had no criminal record.

While I did not say the shooter was justified I did say that there have been many unarmed people shot by cops with less provocation.

The fact that the guy sat in the parking lot guarding the parking spot is irrelevant in this shooting. The guy that was shot had never known the shooter before. In this particular incident, the shooter pulls up after the woman parking in the reserved for handicapped spot pulls up. If he was guarding the spot he was doing so from a distance.

I’m not on the jury so I don’t have to decide guilt but I do try to see why people were motivitated to do what they did.


367 posted on 07/23/2018 12:25:22 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Yep if the owner of the store sticks to his story of the shooter being a nuisance on his property and no history of owner calling police or attempting to stop him, he’s probably going to be sued.


368 posted on 07/23/2018 12:25:53 PM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: LambSlave

stealing cigarettes and smoking crack are NOT the same as parking illegally, sorry.
and you’d confront someone smoking crack? Good luck to you.


369 posted on 07/23/2018 12:27:04 PM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: Cubs Fan

Video shows the guy didn’t pull up and park till after the boyfriend and son had walked into the store.


370 posted on 07/23/2018 12:27:34 PM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: TheNext

“An armed society is a polite society.” Robert Heinlein


371 posted on 07/23/2018 12:30:34 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: DoughtyOne

If that is true, then why was he not removed from the property and arrested?

Why does he still have his CCW and his gun?


372 posted on 07/23/2018 12:31:47 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Navy Patriot; DoughtyOne

We should ask Doughtyone why he continues to push that BS line from the story then, because it’s obviously not true or accurate.


373 posted on 07/23/2018 12:33:03 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m firmly on the side of people using good judgment when they use their weapons, so the Left doesn’t have a legitimate excuse for objecting to concealed carry.

throwing people under the bus who don't deserve to be, in order to get leftist approval is just rino style Appeasement.

I had no problem with the Trayvon or Brown shootings.

yeah right I bet.

This guy had been trolling this very parking lot for months threatening to kill people.

This is alleged at best, as no one reported him to the police for doing that. It's a red herring anyway.

BECAUSE On the day in question trejka did nothing wrong and was viciously assaulted by a thug, who, just like Trayvon, and just like Mike brown, deserved to get shot.

374 posted on 07/23/2018 12:35:49 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Good intentions? Most leftists would throw every one of us in Gulag if they could get away with it)
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To: wardaddy

Witnesses claim the guy confronted the dead mans girlfriend ....read the articles

Do you think it’s ok to kill someone who pushes you down?

Simple question

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I don’t have to read witness statements, although I did read the news reports, I did see the video. The shooter did speak to the woman, the woman however escalates the situation when she got out of her car and into the mans face. What she did was a confrontation.

Would I shoot a person that knocked me down, perhaps, I don’t know, it would certainly depend on how I was pushed down and what was coming next. I’m old, it would not take nearly as much to get me to shoot as it would have 30 or 40 years ago.

Your question is not so simple, but if I though someone was coming to beat me up even if I thought I could survive the beating I would protect myself by shooting my assailant.


375 posted on 07/23/2018 12:37:03 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: MortMan

Two things wrong with this...thee ‘victim’ had two kids with her boyfriend and 2) The boyfriend has anger issues...


376 posted on 07/23/2018 12:42:54 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: yarddog

I can’t find anything to disagree with in your post, it is quite observational, with reasonable conclusions.


377 posted on 07/23/2018 12:44:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: chris37

The whole video. Not the shortened one.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sqPbL_1532105651


378 posted on 07/23/2018 12:45:13 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Navy Patriot
You cannot shoot someone to get even.

I did not say that, and Drejka did not shoot to "get even", he shot in reasonable fear for his life.

Nah.  Sorry but there was no continued threat.  He pulled his weapon and fired even though the Black guy backed off after seeing the weapon.  Ideally that's exactly what you hope for.  You pull your weapon and urge the other person to move off, hoping you can avoid having to discharge your weapon.  This guy did move off, and was right beside his vehicle when this guy fired a shot even though the the guy was no longer even facing him straight on.

The Black guy was not charging or approaching even slowly to inflict more personal injury.

No, he remained too close and remained an imminent threat.

By the time the shot was fired, he was no longer close and he was moving still further away.  He was beside his vehicle, and couldn't move straight away.  He was turning to walk to the front of the car and was shot.

Explain how he was standing his ground, when the Black guy wasn’t even approaching, and in fact was turning away.

Fear of Life, Lethal Force and SYG was justified the moment McGlockton initiated violence and knocked Drejka down with sufficient force to kill or gravely injure, and remained as long as McGlockton was within striking distance.

McGlockton was no longer a threat as he moved away.  When the man pulled the gun, he moved away.  At that point he was no longer a lethal threat.

As for standing their ground, the Black woman did not approach the shooter. He approached her. She was standing her ground. And when her boyfriend returned, he was standing his ground with her.

On the contrary girlfriend exited the vehicle and approached Drejka before he fired.

She exited the vehicle, but did not use physical force.  And she did so before he pulled his weapon.  Subsequent to him being pushed to the ground, she did not approach or exhibit an intent to harm.

None of this would have happened if this person hadn’t taken matters into his own hands, and tried to police the situation.

Drejka's actions were entirely legal, and he has no arrest or criminal record.

Drejka had been threatening to kill people in the parking lot for months.  He had also used racial language to insult people.  Not all problematic people have an arrest record, and this guy was clearly a problem.  The owner of the store was interviewed and he stated the guy had been a problem for months.  One of the people he threatened to kill was interviewed also.  He said the guy threatened to kill him and used racial insults to drive his point home.

McGlockton, on the other hand has multiple arrests and conviction for assault on a police officer and other citizens.

I'm not defending any of McGlockton's other behavior, and have made the case here that you don't mess with someone's girlfriend or wife and expect to be let off easy when the male returns.  This guy asked for it.  I think there's a strong case that McGlockton went too far, but I do not see that as a reason to gun him down baring further incident.  There was no further incident.  He was moving away from the shooter when the shot was fired.  Once he was moving away, the shooter had the reasonable expectation that the altercation was over at that point.  If McGlockton had returned, then he could claim fear again.

Ya can't screw Drejka, and deny him the protection of law, just 'cause ya don't like him, unless your a Socialist Prog, then ya can make up the law as ya go along.

Look, you can spin this any way you like, but when someone is moving away from you, that is not an indication that your life is seriously in jeopardy.   It's an indication that the situation is improving and that you should hold off to make sure you need to use the weapon.  If McGlockton had returned and walked toward the guy, I would have been a lot more sympathetic.

379 posted on 07/23/2018 12:48:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Actually, I think of this something akin to road rage.

Neither side was entirely in the clear > IMO.

Someone wound up dead. That’s usually frowned upon.


380 posted on 07/23/2018 12:51:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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