[DiogenesLamp]

And what happened in 1861?

By that time, people had forgotten, or were too fearful of their ruler to speak the truth, that the founders established the right to independence as the new paradigm.

In 1776, it was accepted that states had a right to be independent. In 1787, people still remembered that states had a right to be independent. By 1861, people wanted to pretend that the very right cited in our own declaration of Independence, didn't exist.

Forgotten and misled.

[OIFVeteran]

Until they created a perpetual union under the articles of confederation and than formed a more perfect union under the constitution.

[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "In 1776, it was accepted that states had a right to be independent.
In 1787, people still remembered that states had a right to be independent.
By 1861, people wanted to pretend that the very right cited in our own declaration of Independence, didn't exist.
Forgotten and misled."

Nonsense, what Confederates and Diogenes "forgot and misled" was that if you provoke, start, declare and wage war against the United States, you will lose, period.