Posted on 07/20/2018 8:55:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
President Trump has once again drawn the sneers and condescension of the Leftist establishment media with his claim that I am the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party92 percent. Beating Lincoln. I beat our Honest Abe. Lincoln, sniffed Newsweek, died a decade before the telephone, which is used for polling, was even invented, and about 80 years before job approval polls for presidents started. CNN intoned magisterially, Thats a hard claim to back up.
But lost in the media contempt was the salient fact that Lincoln, as revered as he has been since his death, was a wildly unpopular President in his day, even within his own party. As Trump continues to receive relentlessly negative media coverage despite a booming economy and outstanding success against ISIS and with North Korea, this is good to keep in mind.
Just before Lincoln took office, the Salem Advocate from his home state of Illinois editorialized that he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion. Lincolns weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world. The Salem Advocate argued, just as Trumps critics do today, that the President embarrassed Americans before the world: the European powers will despise us because we have no better material out of which to make a President.
The Salem Advocate wasnt alone; the most respected pundits in the nation agreed that Lincoln was an embarrassment as President. Edward Everett, a renowned orator, former Senator and Secretary of State, and 1860 Vice Presidential candidate for the Constitutional Union Party, wrote that Lincoln was evidently a person of very inferior cast of character, wholly unequal to the crisis. Congressman Charles Francis Adams, the son of one President and grandson of another, sneered that Lincolns speeches have fallen like a wet blanket here. They put to flight all notions of greatness.
Critics decided what they saw as Lincolns despotic tendencies, often denouncing the very things for which Lincoln is revered as great today. When he issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the Chicago Times decried it as a monstrous usurpation, a criminal wrong, and an act of national suicide. The Crisis of Columbus Ohio sounded the alarm as hysterically as John Brennan crying treason after Trumps press conference with Vladimir Putin: We have no doubt that this Proclamation seals the fate of this Union as it was and the Constitution as it is. The time is brief when we shall have a DICTATOR PROCLAIMED, for the Proclamation can never be carried out except under the iron rule of the worst kind of despotism.
On the day the Emancipation Proclamation was issued, January 1, 1863, former Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis said that Lincoln was shattered, dazed and utterly foolish. It would not surprise me if he were to destroy himself.
The Gettysburg Address didnt go over any better. Edward Everett spoke for two hours just before Lincoln, and was showered with accolades. One man who was in the crowd, Benjamin French, recounted: Mr. Everett was listened to with breathless silence by all that immense crowd, and he had his audience in tears many times during his masterly effort. One of the reporters present, John Russell Young, praised Everetts antique courtly ways, fine keen eyes, the voice of singular charm.
The Harrisburg Patriot & Union, by contrast, in its account of the commemoration at Gettysburg wrote: We pass over the silly remarks of the President. For the credit of the nation we are willing that the veil of oblivion shall be dropped over them and that they shall be no more repeated or thought of.
Everett himself, an experienced speaker who knew good oratory when he heard it, thought otherwise, writing to Lincoln: I should be glad, if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes. In response, Lincoln was grateful but self-deprecating: I am pleased to know that, in your judgment, the little I did say was not entirely a failure.
Lincoln did not even command much respect within his own party. The poet and lawyer Richard Henry Dana wrote to Charles Francis Adams in 1863 that the most striking thing about the politics of Washington was the absence of personal loyalty to the President. It does not exist. He has no admirers, no enthusiastic supporters, none to bet on his head. If a Republican convention were to be held to-morrow, he would not get the vote of a State.
In 1864, Lincoln was indeed renominated, but in a way that left Attorney General Edward Bates disgusted: The Baltimore Convention, he wrote, has surprised and mortified me greatly. It did indeed nominate Mr. Lincoln, but as if the object were to defeat their own nomination. They were all (nearly) instructed to vote for Mr. Lincoln, but many of them hated to do it.
This is not to say that Trump is a new Lincoln, or that he will be as heralded after his administration as a distant memory the way Lincoln has been. But the lesson is clear: contemporary opinion doesnt always line up with historical assessment. A notably unpopular President in his day, Abraham Lincoln, has become one of the iconic heroes of the Republic. It could happen again, and likewise the reverse could happen: the near-universal accolades and hosannas that today greet Barack Obama may one day, in the harsh light of history, appear to have been naïve, wrongheaded, and foolish in the extreme at best.
I read something last week to the effect that perhaps millions of former slaves died of starvation and exposure as a consequence of the war.
It begs for the question that "if the war was for their behalf, then why did no one care about them dying as a consequence of it?"
Lincoln would be forgotton if he hadn’t gotten martyred. Same with Kennedy.
There are a lot of American citizens who secretly wish this was a monarchy so they could kneel before a king or a saint. They are looking for an excuse to worship someone and when a POTUS gets assassinated - there’s their excuse. It’s disgusting.
We got this amazing opportunity to be a self-governing people but some people are so subservient they’d rather bow down to someone.
you tell that 2 somebody else my grandfather had a strip of land 2 miles long on the western side of cape river yankees took it 40 akers and a mule deal wiotch is now part of 195
You focus on politicos. Im interested in the jackasses who elect them.
My whole life Ive heard nothing but slathering over Lincoln from every-day people to activists to authors. I couldnt help but notice amongst Dems he seems to have a perfect acceptance rate, except stubborn southerners who finally realized the Rep of Lincolns day is not the same as Rep today.
Its very simple: Lincoln = black help = PC = righteous. No matter how simplistic that view is.
Maybe you should take it up with Dr. Walt Williams.
Yeah, were just stupid.
Geesh you sound like a lib....belittle anyone who dares speak against your dogma.
Who cares what you heard all your life about the war being fought to free the slaves? The war was fought to preserve the Union. If he could have preserved the Union without freeing the slaves, he would taken that deal as long as he could preserve the Union.
Never seen that. Did someone make a parody of the WASHINGTON art?
THAT was a man of pure greatness. Lincoln cant hold a candle to him.
Indeed people really seem to want a king to worship.
Look how so many Americans slather over stupid figurehead English royals? Its disgusting. Who gives a damn? They do.
And its dems who seem to really go for the tyrant thing. They seem to think its all-important who is the president, dem or Rep. If its Rep, everything is his fault. If its Dem, everything is to his credit. They fail to notice our system is more complex than that.
My family on my mother’s side was from southwest Missouri.
I had a great aunt who despised certain families in the area. I was confused about it and she told me it was because they were democrats.
It turned out the animosity went all the way back to the war. Our family were Unionists and those other families were Confederates.
I get a kick out of pro rebels on here that think nothing of slandering the Union nonstop, but blow a gasket when someone speaks ill of the confederacy.
They illegally rebelled against the duly elected government of the United States of America. Much like the democrats would like to do now, so the democrats haven’t really changed that much.
Just one question, it’s a simple question that I think someone of even your limited intellect can answer, Why did South Carolina secede from the Union?
This!
I think he does it more delusionally than imaginatively.
Until they created a perpetual union under the articles of confederation and than formed a more perfect union under the constitution.
So was the American War of Independence. We were fighting on the side that said people had a right to be independent. Not the side that said they must remain in the existing Union against their will.
Once we Won the war of Independence, the paradigm shifted to the position that people everywhere had a right to be independent of a government that no longer served their interests.
If he could have preserved the Union without freeing the slaves, he would taken that deal as long as he could preserve the Union.
That was propaganda for the naive. Lincoln was willing to let the other states go if Virginia would give him assurances that they would remain in the Union. If he was willing to let the other states go, then "preserving the union" was not so much of a principle as people later thought it to be.
If "Preserving the Union" was his unwavering principle, he wouldn't have offered to let the other states leave.
So did the founders, and then they declared it was the right of the people to abolish any form of government that no longer suited their interests and to replace it with one that did.
Jeez dude. Just when I think you can’t say anything more stupid then any previous bs you put up here you out do yourself.
The Confederacy. Antifa with slaves.
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