Don't worry, believers...
Once the churches adjust to the desires of the State
The appropriate prayers will once again be legal -
mandatory, even - in America!
Posted on 06/29/2018 10:13:25 AM PDT by Bob434
The Supreme Court on Thursday refused to hear an appeal from county officials in North Carolina who argue they should be allowed to give a prayer at the start of public meetings.
The Rowan Country Board of Commissioners had asked the court to reverse the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling, which found the board’s prayer ritual violated the Constitution’s ban on government establishing one religion.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
It’s legal either way. The Supreme Court wants to create a constitutional crisis by continuing to let left-wing abominations stand, it’ll happen.
Completely and totally unconstitutional for the feds to interfere with the free exercise of religion. USSC is way off on this one.
We have a conservative SC now? Only 2 judges dissented from the opinion that the case shouldn’t be heard?
“We conclude that the Constitution does not allow what happened in Rowan County,” the court’s opinion said. “The prayer practice served to identify the government with Christianity and risked conveying to citizens of minority faiths a message of exclusion.”
The Constitution forbids the government from indention with a religion? Even allowing that lie, the fact is that the committee could allow other faiths to pray before the meeting, and the claim that the gov ‘excluded’ anyone would be invalidated
Just pledge the flag. That will drive the haters just as nuts. Pray yourselves.
Town Meetings Can Have Prayer, Justices Decide
Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, wrote that NY had not violated the constitution by holding prayer initiated by a clergyman
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/nyregion/supreme-court-allows-prayers-at-town-meetings.html
Hilarious.
So the “Supreme Court” - an institution created by Christians - now deigns to tell us what we can say.
Probably a good ruling from the Supreme Court there. I grew up in an era when prayers were said in all public schools, including mine. And I was better for it.
But it’s a different world today. Suppose some Muslim-American elected official wants to launch into an Islamic prayer right before a meeting. Would that be OK?
I think not. Better to say your prayers before you leave your house, and leave it at that.
Neither the SCOTUS nor the ACLU have any say in the matter.
Our Constitution guarantees Freedom OF Religion
The ACLU has twisted this Primary Freedom to be
180 Degrees Opposite of the intended purpose .
The Constitution does not establish freedom “FROM” religion
Prayer is not a religion , Prayer is speaking to GOD.
The SCOTUS can not refuse anyone from the Right To Pray.
North Carolina is being deprived of civil rights
The Supreme Court did not give an explanation for its decision as is customary in orders. Justice Clarence Thomas joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch dissented from the court’s refusal to take the case.
Thomas said the Fourth Circuit’s decision is “both unfaithful to our precedents and ahistorical.”
“It also conflicts with a recent en banc decision of the Sixth Circuit,” he said.
Thomas said the 6th Circuit in 2017 upheld a municipal prayer policy virtually identical to the one in Rowan.
“Thus, the Sixth and Fourth Circuits are now split on the legality of legislator-led prayer,” he said.
“State and local lawmakers can lead prayers in Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, and Michigan, but not in South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, or West Virginia. This Court should have stepped in to resolve this conflict.”
[[In Monday’s closely divided decision, the court said a prayer could violate the Constitution if there was an attempt to intimidate, coerce or convert nonbelievers. ]]
The above statement is true- the constitution forbids punishment for not joining in prayer- but simply holding prayer before a meeting is NOT punishing anyone for not participating
Our constitution does NOT prevent our government from preferring one religion over another- it DOES however prevent our government from enacting laws to punish those who don’t subscribe to a particular religion the government deems acceptable-
The left have deceitfully declared that people of other faiths are ‘excluded, therefore they are punished’- But if this is the case- then Christians should declare that NOT holding prayer before meetings punishes them because they hold that God is vital to governing this country effectively
There. How hard was that?
This the same supreme court that has the ten commandments on it’s front doors and is part of the Federal Government where Congress opens with a prayer and swears in the president on a bible?
Flip em the finger and do it anyway. They have no moral authority.
The one thing fedzilla fears more than anything else is widespread disobedience. They count on fear based compliance to their hypocritical orders.
Actually, it conveys to citizens of minority faiths that the USA was founded and built overwhelmingly by Christians and that such prayers have been said to open government meetings since the founders. It also tells those of minority faiths that they are comparative recent arrivals and they chose to come to a Christian majority nation.
It's now a matter of some trying to make unconstitutional practices that have been common since the beginning of the USA and before.
[[But it’s a different world today. Suppose some Muslim-American elected official wants to launch into an Islamic prayer right before a meeting. Would that be OK?]]
If that is hwat the people elected- then yes- it should be allowed- not that i would be in favor of it- our government allows muslims to open in prayer- Jews- Christians- etc-
[[Better to say your prayers before you leave your house, and leave it at that.]]
I disagree- Our country has been holding prayers asking for God’s blessings on meetings for hundreds of years- and noone was hurt by doing so- Banning prayer- anywhere- is a violation of the constitutional right to freedom of religion- even for government employees
“Suppose some Muslim-American elected official wants to launch into an Islamic prayer right before a meeting. Would that be OK?”
No, that wouldn’t be ok. But a normal American prayer is.
[[ It’s now a matter of some trying to make unconstitutional practices that have been common since the beginning of the USA and before.]]
Exactly
[[Actually, it conveys to citizens of minority faiths that the USA was founded and built overwhelmingly by Christians and that such prayers have been said to open government meetings since the founders. It also tells those of minority faiths that they are comparative recent arrivals and they chose to come to a Christian majority nation.]]
Well said- Scalia argued that same thing- We have a long long history of prayer in government and it is an established ‘custom’ if you will that hurts noone or punishes them if they choose not to participate, and hterefore it is constitutional and traditional, and should not be outlawed because again, it punishes noone who doesn’t participate-
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