Posted on 06/25/2018 3:28:41 PM PDT by Mariner
Republican Senate nominee Corey Stewart said that he doesnt believe that the Civil War was fought over the issue of slavery, arguing that it was mostly about states rights.
In a Monday interview with Hill.TVs Rising, Stewart, who recently won the GOP nomination in the Virginia Senate race, said that not all parts of Virginias history are pretty.
But he said he doesnt associate slavery with the war.
I dont at all. If you look at the history, thats not what it meant at all, and I dont believe that the Civil War was ultimately fought over the issue of slavery, Stewart said.
When Rising co-host Krystal Ball pressed him again if the Civil War was significantly fought over slavery, Stewart said some of them talked about slavery, but added that most soldiers never owned slaves and they didnt fight to preserve the institution of slavery.
We have to put ourselves in the shoes of the people who were fighting at that time and from their perspective, they saw it as a federal intrusion of the state, he said.
Stewart also said he doesnt support a Richmond elementary school named after a Confederate general deciding to rename it after former President Obama.
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They didn’t ever try - they chose insurrection, violence, and war instead. And got their butts kicked as a consequence of THEIR ACTIONS.
Doubling down on stupid to cite a phrase he’s fond of.
Too bad someone doesn’t ask him at what date the culture of Washington and Jefferson became the evil that required death and destruction to end it.
Typical that you would call a letter from Madison to Hamilton, the two biggest reasons for the constitution, just another random letter. These two WROTE the damn thing so I put far more weight to that letter than anything any of the secese clowns ever wrote.
Another of your ignorant claims is that the claim that there were not sufficient safeguards against the insanity that Washington warned about in the Farewell Address (mainly written by Hamilton after a first draft from Madison.)
The absurdity of a union being in danger of being abrogated a UNION (look up the meaning of the word) by a state is beyond doubt.
No states seceded from the Articles, they simply added to and strengthened the Constitution since the Articles had been demonstrated to be a disaster. And those changes did not go into effect until a majority of the states ratified it.
The reason the South never industrialized was the Slaver aristocracy had the region under their iron fist and did not want it for various reasons particularly the loss of power to a rising bourgeois class which industrialization would produce.
Argue with the Confederacy’s leaders about that. It is an indisputable fact that the fear of elimination of slavery was the admitted reason the Slavers revolted. Not because of a tariff or federal “tyranny” (the latter is laughable in the extreme.)
Don’t be a dumbass and look even dumber. My father fought the Japanese in New Guinea (as close to Hell as there is on Earth) and my elder son served as a nuke on the submarine, USS Ohio, for six years. One of my brothers was career Air Force, another Navy, and another Air Force. There is no one on this site more pro-military than I. But don’t let that stop you from throwing out red herrings when you have no argument.
That generation was heavily propagandized about “the Noble Cause.” “Gone with the Wind”, “Birth of a Nation” are just two of movies and there were many novels as well. One of my favorites was “The Little Colonel”.
I believed that nonsense growing up in Southern Arkansas. But then I grew up.
Set revisionism aside, set aside all the legal haggling, what the Constitution said, the Federalist Papers, all the secession issues and answer this:
Wouldn’t slavery have ended someday?
In SC, 1/3 of the residents owned 2/3 of the residents, how would political power ever have changed hands peacefully?
Wouldn’t there always been some accumulated civil strife/political aggravation that led to war?
The Civil War was inevitable. The Confederacy could never have won, given its disadvantage of resources, manpower, and war materiel.
The end result would have been the same, no way to permanently avoid it.
What is the point of continuing to advocate what was always a losing cause?
What’s done is done.
And that cost the South, and they got their’s handed to them by the North.
Geesh. Another GOP candidate who's gonna lose, and make 'our side' look bad.
Figures that the Pledge is insufficient for you, you don’t recite the whole thing. How about “...under God.” Do you join the Left is railing against that clause?
There was no “enshrinement” and it clearly saw it would end and the suppression of importation after 1808 shows that.
There was no worshiping of slavery in the Constitution.
Many of us are veterans like myself.
Just because they hold the views you espouse does not mean they know anything about the historical subject.
Those men have not be slandered. But they have been poorly represented by you.
Rush and Levin have done far more to make conservatism acceptable than you.
You made my point. You say Virginia had nothing to say about the secession of it’s western half because Virginia had seceded from the Union. If you want to say that there is no right to secession, then Virginia could not have left the Union. If they were still in the Union, they had a say in whether or not to split up into two states. You cannot have it both ways my friend.
Read the Constitution, it makes it clear that individual states do NOT have complete sovereignty. Read Article I, Section 10 and tell me about “sovereignty”.
It is clearly divine intervention that allowed the Union to prevail. Due to the lack of competent Northern military leaders. It was touch and go until Gettysburg and Vicksburg.
But good luck if the state's name is "Texas" and it seceded from the United States and wants to be a completely separate, sovereign entity that remains neutral. If that's the case, and the Governor happens to be a man named Sam Houston, pro-confederate forces will storm the capitol and FORCE the state to join the confederacy and be subservient to the CSA's federal government back over east in Richmond, VA.
So much for "states rights" then!
There is no contradiction.
Virginia had forfeited its rights in the making of federal law and had pulled its members out of the Congress. The people of WV remained in the Union no matter what the Slavers wanted.
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