Posted on 06/17/2018 6:25:25 PM PDT by BobL
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Eight years after California adopted new standards designed to boost students’ critical thinking and analytical skills, it’s become clear that a critical group was left behind in the push to implement Common Core: parents.
The good old days of memorizing math formulas or multiplication tables are gone. Instead, Common Core math requires students to show how they reason their way to the right answer. As a result, many parents say homework is far more complicated than it used to be. For example, the right answer to 3×5 isn’t just 15 anymore, as one popular social media post noted. It’s 3+3+3+3+3. And it’s 5+5+5. The new methods leave many parents baffled.
“I despise common core math,” says Katie O’Donnell, a pediatric respiratory therapist who lives in San Jose and often uses math at work. Though she loves volunteering in her son Nima’s class, she admits she sometimes ducks out early because she’s embarrassed that she has no explanations for students who ask for help.
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“I’ll sometimes do multiplication the common core way in my head to get a close answer if not the right answer.”
Wow...you mean there’s a method in Common Core. First I’ve heard - I thought it was just random diagramming and essays.
“Yep. Common core is designed for parents to NOT be able to help their children learn. It’s a part of destroying the family unit.”
I’m not sure that was the intent, but it certainly is working that way. People here with advanced technical degrees, as in engineering, cannot help their own kids with math? That should be ringing alarm bells everywhere.
Imbecilic.
What happens when you “have to work it through” when there are 5 equations, 5 limitation factors and a dozen other possible endcases involved in one problem ?
Maybe its a formula for a population being fed a communist style election (only one name on the ballot) ???
the 3x5 3+3+3+3+3 5+5+5 lesson example is usually eliminated after it proves to the student why it works, and thus becomes an accepted assumption so that more complicated things can be moved on to.
“There is another realm - that of the abstract mathematician trying to develop new mathematical concepts. You are born with this facility and you know it by age 7 or something and unless you are a Riemann or a Gauss or a Newton or a Leibniz, forget it. Those folks weren’t taught mathematics. They invented it out of their heads.”
EXACTLY - Math has been around for thousands of years for OVER 90% OF THAT TIME, the smartest people in the world, including the Romans, the Geeks, and others, were simply UNABLE to invent the mathematics that were ultimately invented by the 4 people you name above (roughly 250 years ago, average).
...so my little Johnny, who plays video games all day, is expected to develop, on his own, the same society-changing mathematics concepts? Certainly I don’t expect that...but Common Core, I guess, does.
“I guarantee you, at the elite prep schools, they teach kids real math. Associative, Commutative, distributive, etc. This is not an accidental mistake.”
Add Kumon, Sylvan, and hundreds that you never heard of because virtually every Asian and Indian kid in this country goes to them, while our kids are wrecking their knees (and brains) at football practice, or the Drama Club.
And no, they don’t use calculators, and no, they don’t use Common Core. The use what works.
“Do I recall correctly that candidate Trump campaigned on getting rid of Common Core?”
Trump may be able to bring peace to Korea after 70 years of an at-war state, but he doesn’t stand a chance of getting control of education. Even in Texas, every time our State Board of Education tried to get some control, we became the laughing stock of the country and they backed down...every time.
“Common Core is Liberal insanity.”
It depends on your definition of ‘insanity’. In my book, as far as I can see for the Left, Common Core is BRILLIANT - it basically extinguishes ANY HOPE that a smart white kid can pull ahead of the pack, unless he’s in the 10% (at most) of kids who have parents who understand just what’s going on, and therefore take control of their kids’ education.
For the other 90%, including my parents who both got advanced degrees (long ago), but whose parents (i.e., my grandparents) didn’t even finish high school, Common Core puts them (my parents) IN THEIR PLACE, and they’d never even make it through community college today.
That’s the design, to grab that 90% and hold them down...and for that goal, Common Core is a DREAM COME TRUE - for the Left.
And now they’re coming for the last 10% of the kids, by taking over control of SAT testing and making it conform to Common Core - although they are limited in that eventually math becomes math, and if you’re not getting the right answers, things don’t work.
And you lied. There is no one named cynwoody at that phone number.
Thanks - just watched your short clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Nr3_2724
From some school board meeting, I guess. He FLAT OUT states that Common Core is designed to offset ‘white privilege’.
Folks, these are the people who are TEACHING YOUR KIDS.
Teach them Algebra, which is the closest to Commie Core Math. It’s what my husband a Math Major taught our grandson.
The problem described here is not math, it is arithmetic
“I’m getting the impression ‘Common Core’ is some kind of leftist horseshit, promulgated by compliant teachers.”
Many people, even here, don’t understand exactly who our teachers are today. They go through a system in college DESIGNED to get the dumbest, most compliant, people possible to carry out the agenda. They do this through our ‘schools of education’ at major colleges - which are supposedly there to teach future teachers - and they ALWAYS take from the bottom of the batch when it comes to students. It’s all documented by Dr. Sowell.
No one ever questions why they exist at all - after all, there are classrooms and SUCCESSFUL teaching going on EVERYWHERE with teachers who never went to these schools - be it private schools, corporate classes, military classes, etc.
The people that give us Common Core are not the millions of teachers, nope, it is a few dozen on top - the teachers are the foot soldiers and those ‘schools of education’ is how they’re weeded out to make sure only those who comply will get the teaching jobs.
If we can cut off the ones on top (the ones in DC), and BANISH them from ever getting near our kids again, in any way, and then go back to stuff that works, the ‘teachers’ will bitch and whine and the media will amplify it, but yes, we’ll actually start to EDUCATE our kids again, in our schools.
You have three taekawae signs and no kumnzowtoo sign, let alone a gozinta sign. Your problem is insoluble.
The entire program is insane.
Nothing insane about it. See my Post 107.
Homeschool your kids!
I do not recommend the physics book, advanced math, or calculus books unless they are paired with other textbooks. There are too few examples and practice questions in the Saxon books to master the material. Also there are many frustrating errors in the solution manuals.
Each spring my husband and I go on an extended camping vacation ( 6 to 8 weeks). Over the past several years ( while my husband windsurfs)I have done all the problems in the Saxon math series starting with the 7/8 books and progressing each year, level by level. This year I am doing Saxon calculus. I am currently on chapter 83.
I have not seen the softcover editions so I have no opinion about them. I do hope that their solution manuals have fewer errors.
Please read my post #117.
Thanks Wintertime. Their Advanced Math did great for my kids, which is where we stopped, no Saxon Calculus or Physics (I suspect Mr. Saxon and the others were pretty damn tired by then!).
But the Advanced Math got my kids fully prepared for the next level (Calculus in this case), which they breezed through in college - it is a super book!
Children with problems like ADD, ADHD, ASD or NVLD which are meaningless acronyms serving as medical diagnoses requiring additional funding to teach.
Nice racket they got there.
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