Posted on 06/08/2018 10:10:32 AM PDT by Mariner
“Sorry, you are most likely delusional.”
That’s a lovely fallacy. Appreciate you proving you have no credibility right from the start lol!
I was on anti-depressants for 20+ years. Ativan & insomnia for 8 years. Follow doctor’s orders. Went to therapy & just got worse over the years.
I started using cannabis in 2015. By the end of 2015 I was off the anti-depressants.
By the end of 2016 I was off the ativan.
By the end of 2017 I was off the insomnia meds.
Since 2015 I’ve lost 94 lbs of flab due to increased energy & exercise. I’m happy & thankful I can experience joy after decades of misery.
So stick your ‘diagnosis’ back into the rear-end from which it came, k?
Distressing how many self-proclaimed "conservatives" refuse to get this.
Most of those conservatives know who pays for the Idle dopers.
That makes it OK to violate the Constitution? If they think that, they're no conservatives.
I don’t use marijuana.
As I said, there are those who believe the Constitution IS a suicide pact.
If legal alcohol didn't kill this country, legal marijuana won't.
Make your case.
Your claim came first - so after you.
Nonsense. Anyone, poor or not, who before legalization was responsible enough to not use illegal marijuana will after legalization remain responsible enough to not become an addict.
Very broad statement. Make your case.
Again, your claim came first - so after you.
From a procedural standpoint, you're wrong - legislatures repeal laws all the time.
From a practical standpoint, the step has already been taken ... 8 states have already legalized recreational marijuana.
No they haven't, they just voted to ignore Federal law, they didn't change the law.
My point remains.
As a physician that gets to treat potheads and the mother of an addicted child I hate it as well. It seems society is literally hell bent on legalizing it. We will reap the rewards of this decision for a long time
Alcohol and pot are harmful to those who use them - their prohibition is harmful even to nonusers. Freedom works, prohibition doesn't.
Supposing your nonrandom observations extrapolate to the larger population ... what of it? Harm is harm.
If you believe that then insist all the Constitution be fully enforced that will then let all of it be interpreted by 1 or 2 Black Robed kings. The reason the Constitution isn't protecting us is exactly what John Adams stated.
The following message is from John Adams to the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Militia of Massacusetts
Gentleman, While our country remains untainted with the principles and manners which are now producing desolation in so many parts of the world; while she continues sincere, and incapable of insidious and impious policy, we shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned us by Providence. But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays I have received from Major-General Hull and Brigadier, General Walker your unanimous address from Lexington, animated with a martial spirit, and expressed with a military dignity becoming your character and the memorable plains on which it was adopted. in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candor, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
But I suppose you have watched a lot of situation comedies, movies, and other MSM shows that have made you into an expert.
There’s a well-established link between the churches that oppose letting counties go wet and the guys who run the liquor stores and bars just over the county line.
I am very glad that you have been able to give up 20+ years of using psychotropic drugs and therapy following “doctors orders”. Congratulations on losing close to 100 pounds as well. Long term marijuana use is more typically associated with needing to start using psychotropic medications and weight gain rather than the other way around as in your case.
I responded to people having difficulties related to their marijuana use for 25 years. During all this time I do not remember meeting one person who had a positive outcome to a medical or psychological condition by using marijuana. But strangely on this conservative forum I have met half a dozen people or more who claim that marijuana has “saved their life”.
John Adams was sometimes overly dogmatic with some of his observations, such as the one above, IMHO.
Another thing Adams said, using a similar theme, was:
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."—John Adams
I have always felt the above John Adams quote was also rather bombastic—even balderdash, quite frankly. With that said, I maintain enormous enormous respect for this critically important Founder.
The Constitution is a secular document, and has proven more than adequate—even if routinely ignored—to governing a wide array of People who encapsulate various (or no) religions, cultures, and differing moral sensibilities. The First Amendment, of course, also protects, for instance, Atheists and Secular Humanists, who are obviously not part of the "moral and religious and moral People" which Adams opined the Constitution was "made only for"—but millions of which are now citizens of the United States.
Make no mistake—I am from precisely that "moral and religious" tradition which Adams spoke of. But the Constitution is so much closer to ideal than any one of the individual Founders could imagine, it's almost miraculous that it has been wholly adequate to governing such an incredibly diverse People—again, even though it is so frequently perverted or disregarded altogether.
Among other things, John Adams was a bit of a monarchist, infatuated with pomp, ceremony, and appearance, and he personally envisioned more of that type of system for the fledgling United States—especially regarding the office of President.
The idiot also got the the date for the Fourth of July wrong...</sarc>
Poor fellar. I remember the day when I discovered 1st hand cannabis is medicine and how shocked I was to learn everything I had been taught by authoritarian prohibitionists about cannabis was a lie. :)
But I got over my pride and have remained thankful to God in Heaven for this amazing medicine that has given me my life back.
Tell it to Willie Nelson.
It should be left up to each State to decide for itself.
The days of the Federal Government's "one size fits all" are numbered.
The only thing the Federal Government should be responsible and answerable for is ENFORCING the U.S. CONSTITUTION.
I’m remind of Reagan Administration official Lyn Nofziger. A stronger opponent of medical marijuana you could not meet. And then his daughter got cancer. A battlefield conversion ensued, as his daughter turned to cannabis to deal with the side effects of chemo. Something peculiar about the human race that makes it difficult to put ourselves in someone else’s shoes until we’re personally affected.
We open up marijuana for the asking and using with no rules, then it is coke, crack, and finally meth. We will just sell the crap beside the aspirin, nasal sprays and tooth paste at Wally World. We lost the war on drugs the day we started making concessions. Slap the death penalty on those caught sneaking it into the country, growing it in the woods and that would have stopped it. We used to have the death penalty without 800 appeals. We had it for shooting cops. Now we have hundreds of cops shot every stinking year. Naw, our problems are self inflicted. We have liberalized everything. EVERYTHING!!! The call themselves socialists, liberals, progressives. What they are, are stinking communists. Bound and bred to destroy the nation. They are winning.
The movie “Idiocracy” comes to mind.. :)
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