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Ottawa looks at regulating imitation guns after police shootings
Canadian Broadcasting Corp. ^ | 06/03/18 | Dean Beeby

Posted on 06/03/2018 4:42:23 AM PDT by mkleesma

The Trudeau government is looking into whether it should regulate imitation firearms following three Toronto incidents which saw police shoot and kill men brandishing relatively harmless guns.

Dr. Dirk ​Huyer, Ontario's chief coroner, alerted federal Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould and her officials to the cases, which led three coroner juries to recommend Ottawa revise the Criminal Code to help prevent such fatalities.

The minister confirmed in a letter last month to Huyer that the department is reviewing proposals to tighten controls on look-alike weapons that police often have no choice but to treat as genuine.

A spokesman for the minister, Simon Rivet, told CBC News that officials are "examining the recommendations" and consulting on them with Public Safety Canada, which also helps set Ottawa's gun policies.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


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To: raybbr

...I didn’t read where any of them pointed a gun at the cop. Just brandishing a fake gun is now a death sentence...

Liberals must create laws to prevent every stupid thing people might do. Look for a ban on hotdog eating contests when someone e chokes to death on one during a contest.


21 posted on 06/03/2018 6:21:58 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Okay. They responded to someone pointing a weapon at them. They get to shoot first and ask questions after. What do you think would happen to you if you did that?


22 posted on 06/03/2018 6:26:11 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: raybbr

What would happen to me?

If I was a cop... probably nothing.

If I were pointing a toy gun at a cop, I’d probably get shot, too.

Your point?


23 posted on 06/03/2018 6:40:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Yo-Yo

Rimfire, no magazine limit. Centerfire, ten rounds.


24 posted on 06/03/2018 6:44:21 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

But if you,a private citizen,gunned down a 15 year old carrying a pellet gun ,expect to be charged ,your weapon confiscated,and BIG legal fees at the very least.


25 posted on 06/03/2018 6:45:50 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Yo-Yo

Canadian law limits AR magazines to 10 rounds.

My mistake, I thought we were still limited to 7 rounds as originally written in NY.

My AR platform rifles are at a second house 20 miles away in PA. where they are not subject to the Follies of the MORON Cuomo.


26 posted on 06/03/2018 6:49:08 AM PDT by heshtesh
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To: All

Advantages of Criminals using imitation pistols.

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/04/advantages-of-criminals-using-imitation-guns/


27 posted on 06/03/2018 6:54:57 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Remember how when the crook threw his empty gun at Superman that the Man of Steel always ducked?


28 posted on 06/03/2018 6:57:14 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: hoosierham

Of course.

I think there’s several issues that have to be considered.

First and foremost, there’s situational awareness. If either a private citizen or a policemen gunned down a 15 year old with a pellet gun who was simply shooting bottles in his backyard, it would be criminal.

But, if in the heat of a potential felony—i.e, arrest situation or home invasion, someone shot the wielder of a pellet gun pointed at the shooter, it should be considered self-defense.

It’s also true that cops are far more likely than a private citizen to get the benefit of the doubt.

It all depends.

The point of my post is that, a person with a pellet gun should be extra careful about it being perceived as a real gun. Just as a CCW holder has to be careful that his intentions while carrying aren’t misinterpreted.


29 posted on 06/03/2018 6:57:19 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Larry Lucido

Guns aren’t banned, but they’re trying. We have lots.


30 posted on 06/03/2018 6:59:00 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: raybbr

Okay. They responded to someone pointing a weapon at them. They get to shoot first and ask questions after. What do you think would happen to you if you did that?


Mostly, it is the same as what happens to police officers.

There is more investigation of citizens, to make sure there were not other motives (love triangle, etc.) but the justifications are the same.

http://fox4kc.com/2013/03/04/man-charged-in-attempted-trimble-bank-robbery-chase/


31 posted on 06/03/2018 7:02:34 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: mkleesma
Spot_The_Difference
32 posted on 06/03/2018 7:23:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: a fool in paradise

Superman just stood there while the guy was shooting; when he ran out of bullets he threw the gun at him and Superman ducked.


33 posted on 06/03/2018 7:24:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler
Or this:

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34 posted on 06/03/2018 7:27:11 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: mkleesma

The perps wanted the observers to believe they had real guns, therefore for all intents and purposes they WERE real guns.

But Liberals/Progressives/Socialists/Communists always punish the innocent and reward the guilty.


35 posted on 06/03/2018 8:13:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
More seriously, what kind of idiot points a BB gun at a cop?

I agree. What we are seeing is natural selection at play here.

36 posted on 06/03/2018 8:14:15 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: mkleesma

They can regulate imitation firearms but they can’t regulate stupidity.It’s not the gun it’s the user.


37 posted on 06/03/2018 8:15:06 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Just arm all police with BB guns. Only in pink or orange so you don’t scare anyone.


38 posted on 06/03/2018 8:39:58 AM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Only kidding.)
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To: heshtesh

AFAIK the NY SAFE act limiting magazines to seven rounds was suspended due to the lack of available magazines.


39 posted on 06/03/2018 9:13:49 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

No. What would happen to you if you shot someone who pointed a bb gun at you?


40 posted on 06/03/2018 9:35:09 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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