Pope's reported comment to a gay man may indicate a new level of acceptance of homosexuality

LA Times ^ | 21 May 2018 | By TOM KINGTON

[mandaladon]

Pope Francis has reportedly told a gay man that "God made you that way and loves you as you are," apparently pushing the pontiff's acceptance of homosexuality to a new level.

Francis made the comments to Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of priestly sexual abuse who recently spent days with the pope at the Vatican to discuss his ordeal as the pontiff moves to tackle decades of coverups and ostracism of victims in the Chilean church, according to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

Cruz was quoted as having discussed his homosexuality with Francis. "He told me: 'Juan Carlos, I don't care about you being gay. God made you that way and loves you as you are and I don't mind. The pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are.' "

A spokesman at the Vatican on Sunday declined to confirm or deny Francis' comments, stating, "We don't normally comment on the pope's private conversations."

In 2013, Francis famously said, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with goodwill, who am I to judge?" when asked for his views on homosexuality, signaling a sea change in Catholic views on sexual orientation.

That year he also told an interviewer, "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality," adding, "I replied with another question: 'Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' "

His reported remarks based on Cruz's account go further, however, by suggesting he believes people are created gay by God — a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.

[JimRed]

So, if I decide that I like little girls, God made me that way and the behavior is OK? Millstone...neck...depth of the sea...

Abomination... received in themselves the due penalty for their error... put to death...their blood upon them...

[Pilgrim's Progress]

And yet Catholics enjoying their deception will continue to defend their cult.

[Gay State Conservative]

He’ll be dead soon.With any luck another Pole will succeed him.

[polymuser]

Pope Pedo.

[PeterPrinciple]

When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ “

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There is human thinking and there is God thinking.

And how do we know what God thinks?

God is God, and we are not.......................

[rjsimmon]

Jesuits are a secret society which originated in Argentina.

The Society of Jesus (Jesuits) was founded in Paris, France in 1540. LONG before Argentina existed.

[Mrs. Don-o]

If the Pope would return to Sacred Tradition he would preach that all of us (whatever "orientation box" we check) are called to sexual purity: total abstinence from sex outside of marriage, and the active practice of sexual relations only within real, natural man-woman marriage.

BTW, Some ignorantly opine that the pope's latest distorted comments were a result of the pope following "Tradition," but this is of course false. "Tradition" (capital "T") means "that which is handed down," and both Apostolic and Scriptural tradition present sodomy as a gravely depraved act.

[Gay State Conservative]

And yet Catholics enjoying their deception will continue to defend their cult.

I hope this isn't Catholic bashing you're engaged in.We now have a rogue "pope" just as we recently had a rouge "President".

[fwdude]

I’m almost positive that this pope might be a sodomite. ACTIVELY a sodomite.

[ealgeone]

>>‘This is the fruit of doing so.’<<

and you explain the gaiety in the Protestant churches exactly how...?

Well, to lump all Protestant churches into one basket is wrong to do.

But, I do agree that a lot of the mainline denominations have also departed from the Word. You usually see this when a female is "ordained" to lead the church. It doesn't take too long after that for the teachings against homosexuality to disappear to be replaced with "it's ok".

[ealgeone]

If the Pope would return to Sacred Tradition he would preach that all of us (whatever "orientation box" we check) are called to sexual purity: total abstinence from sex outside of marriage, and the active practice of sexual relations only within real, natural man-woman marriage.

If the Roman Catholic church would return to Biblical teaching....

[CodeToad]

I think the Pope is gay.

[Rappini]

It’s easier to suck up (no pun intended) than to take a sides of a controversial position.

[Rappini]

It’s easier to suck up (no pun intended) than to take a sides of a controversial position.

[Amish with an attitude]

What’s next? Will the Pope decree that Romans 1 be stricken from the Catholic Bible?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Jesuits originated in 16TH century Spain...

[A Navy Vet]

And this is why I have never supported organized religion. They change their edicts to every social pressure that comes down the pike. While I subscribe to Judeo/Christian values, I will never worship some man who is voted into office by other mortal men to be the voice of god. I’m a Deist at best and don’t believe any man has a direction connection to the entity behind the Universe.

[MNDude]

My bad! I guess it originated in either Spain or France then.

[Buttons12]

The Jesuit order has devolved into an unspeakable cabal that has become comfortable with depravity. Any parent that entrusts their young son to their care is negligent.

You mean like public schools?

[stevio]

Yep! And he made me an alcoholic. Woo hoo! hic.