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F.B.I. Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims
New York Times ^ | 18 May 2018 | Adam Goldman, Mark Mazzetti and Matthew Rosenberg

Posted on 05/19/2018 4:32:28 AM PDT by Magnatron

President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes” even before the bureau had any inkling of the “phony Russia hoax.”

In fact, F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign. The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.

The role of the informant is at the heart of the newest battle between top law enforcement officials and Mr. Trump’s congressional allies over the F.B.I.’s most politically charged investigations in decades. The lawmakers, who say they are concerned that federal investigators are abusing their authority, have demanded documents from the Justice Department about the informant.

Law enforcement officials have refused, saying that handing over the documents would imperil both the source’s anonymity and safety. The New York Times has learned the source’s identity but typically does not name informants to preserve their safety.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhodoj; carterpage; crossfirehurricane; dearlove; halper; martland; papadopoulos; petermartland; resignations; richarddearlove; stefanhalper; trump2016; trumprussia; trumpwiretaps; yourefired
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To: KyCats
But alas, only the left is that firm in their convictions.

I agree about protesting, but it takes organization, money and a lot of otherwise unemployed individuals to generate a protest. We on the right generally have access to fewer of the type that can be hustled over to a protest on practically a moment's notice.

21 posted on 05/19/2018 4:54:02 AM PDT by Avalon Memories ( Proud Deplorable. Proud born-in-the-USA American Dreamer.)
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To: jdsteel
Here’s the thing...these rogue agents worked inside an FBI that still had a vast majority of patriotic agents, who will help weed out the criminals in their midst.

Let's hope so. But it depends on recruitment, promotion, and appointment with those goals in mind. Is it too late? For example, one might have said something like this about educators at one point in time. Or even judges.

22 posted on 05/19/2018 4:56:50 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: Magnatron

That dog will not hunt...the coming boom is going to be sonic.

Corrupt Intelligence Apparatchik Leaks “Informant” Name (Stefan Halper) and Defensive Perspective To New York Times…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/19/corrupt-intelligence-apparatchik-leaks-informant-name-stefan-halper-and-defensive-perspective-to-new-york-times/


23 posted on 05/19/2018 4:57:22 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Avalon Memories
I agree about protesting, but it takes organization, money and a lot of otherwise unemployed individuals to generate a protest. We on the right generally have access to fewer of the type that can be hustled over to a protest on practically a moment's notice.

Definitely a new form of protest has to evolve. For now that is the voting booth.

24 posted on 05/19/2018 4:58:22 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: Magnatron
So the FBI sent spies into the Trump campaign looking for Russians!

So why didn't they send spies when Bobby Boy went to Moscow with yellow cake samples?

25 posted on 05/19/2018 4:58:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Magnatron

“Gee... we weren’t spying on you. How could you suggest such a thing? We were just investigating what you were doing.”

The FBI should be dismantled. It has no reputation left.
The people behind this should be hung for treason.


26 posted on 05/19/2018 5:01:20 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: ronnie raygun

...and AGAIN, nobody will go to prison for this..

They’ll just appoint another counsel to waste a year of taxpayer dollars to figure out how to make sure this doesn’t happen again... blah, blah, blah...

This is BS. We should be hanging people publicly.


27 posted on 05/19/2018 5:05:03 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: joethedrummer

Stefan Halper told Sputnik:

3 Nov 2016: Sputnik: Clinton Best Option for US-UK ‘Special Relationship’ – Ex-White House Official
The victory of Hillary Clinton, who is more experienced and predictable than her Republican rival Donald Trump, in the US presidential elections will be more beneficial for the US-UK relations, former White House official Stefan Halper told Sputnik

“I believe [Hillary] Clinton would be best for US-UK relations and for relations with the European Union. Clinton is well-known, deeply experienced and predictable. US-UK relations will remain steady regardless of the winner although Clinton will be less disruptive over time,” Halper, who served as deputy assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs and senior adviser to the Department of Defense and the Department of Justice, said.
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201611031047032702-clinton-us-uk-cooperation/


28 posted on 05/19/2018 5:09:17 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Magnatron; Bigtigermike
This is the second story in this vein. An earlier FR post was from the Washington Post:

The FBI didn’t use an informant to go after Trump. They used one to protect him. [WasPo garbage]

So the narrative has shifted from "Trump is crazy, there was no spy," to "Trump is crazy, they weren't spying on him, they were protecting him."

If that is so, then why the Mueller investigation?

29 posted on 05/19/2018 5:10:31 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Magnatron

“Used an informant to investigate”

That’s what’s known as “spying.”

Dumbsh*ts.


30 posted on 05/19/2018 5:12:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Magnatron

So the spinners have been war gaming this scenario for the past year and their opening salvo is it was a legit to save the Republic! Slam that crap right down their necks.


31 posted on 05/19/2018 5:12:46 AM PDT by databoss
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To: tirednvirginia

Great point. I doubt you will get an answer from these scumbag Journos. They are fully complicit before and after the fact.


32 posted on 05/19/2018 5:13:37 AM PDT by DrDude (Where's the Storm? Its not even raining yet!)
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To: Magnatron

Oh look. Trump was right.


33 posted on 05/19/2018 5:13:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Magnatron

Oh look. Trump was right.


34 posted on 05/19/2018 5:13:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Magnatron

Some of the media reporting seems to be engaging in a word game.

What is an informant, oh no it was a “confidential source”?

Uh I guess a confidential sources is a “prostitute” in their minds, a way to dress up “informant” which I guess everyone knows to be some lower term.


35 posted on 05/19/2018 5:14:46 AM PDT by Spiridon
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To: jdsteel
This is felony on top of felony.

Bump!

36 posted on 05/19/2018 5:15:16 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Magnatron


37 posted on 05/19/2018 5:16:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: ClearCase_guy

I am certain that had President Bush taken the very same approach with the presidential campaign of Barak Hussein Obama, the NYT would have been just fine with that, right?


38 posted on 05/19/2018 5:16:51 AM PDT by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat.....")
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To: Magnatron

OK. Fine. And what did they learn?


39 posted on 05/19/2018 5:17:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Pravious

Gee... we weren’t spying on you. How could you suggest such a thing? We were just investigating what you were doing without telling you and then privately reporting it to your political opponents, self-servingly leaking harmful parts to the press and using the information to lie to our courts in order to wiretap ALL of your communications.”

Clarified it a bit!


40 posted on 05/19/2018 5:19:15 AM PDT by Treeless Branch
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