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Deadly Convenience: Keyless Cars and Their Carbon Monoxide Toll
NY Times ^
| 13 May 2018
| David Jeans and Majlie De Puy Kamp
Posted on 05/13/2018 8:55:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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I have a keyless-ignition, but don't park the car in a garage. Nevertheless, I have started to exit the car a few times with the engine still running.
But this did happen to my next door neighbors a few months ago. One of their adult kids stopped over at 7 am and found them both unconscious. They both survived - and their kids made them sell the car.
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posted on
05/13/2018 8:55:27 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
To: oh8eleven
What type of idiot parks a car with a keyless ignition in a garage?
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:00:00 AM PDT
by
BobL
(I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
To: oh8eleven
Are these new cars silent and vibrationless when running?
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:00:18 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: oh8eleven
Was that car inspected?
My BIL worked at GM until his retirement 15 years ago. His comment on emissions control was “We’ve suppressed emissions so much that if you’re going to try and kill yourself by running your car in the garage, you better bring something to read. It’s gonna take a long time.”
To: oh8eleven
Me, too. Darn car is so quiet. Mine starts beeping madly if I walk away with the engine running. I guess it’s lucky I don’t have a garage.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:02:38 AM PDT
by
Rio
(I was deplorable when deplorable wasn't cool.)
To: PIF
Mine starts beeping to beat the band if I open the door before stopping the engine. It is a little hard to get used to - I just got mine six months ago.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:03:56 AM PDT
by
ichabod1
(If there is to be war, let it begin here.)
To: BobL
“What type of idiot parks a car with a keyless ignition in a garage?”.. Me and I was an idiot..in my defense, I upgraded from a dodge ram 1500 with a hole in the muffler.. car was less than a month old.. Not the garage but left mine running 2 hours while at a training seminar.. word to the wise, don't set your radio to keep playing for a few minutes after the car is off. set it to turn off when the car is off. and yes todays cars are quiet and vibration-less.. MY-2012 V-6 Dodge Charger.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:05:54 AM PDT
by
Ikeon
(WhAaat? you got offended by something you read on the intranet?)
To: oh8eleven
I’m surprised they don’t have a safety time out, something like, if the engine has been on for more than a few minutes without a person sitting in the driver seat to shut itself off.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:06:16 AM PDT
by
aquila48
To: Rio
Mine starts beeping madly if I walk away with the engine running.
Yeah, mine too.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:07:48 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: BobL
the real question is, what kind of an idiot forgets to push the big button on the dashboard to turn off their engine? and Who can’t hear that their car is still running?
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:08:37 AM PDT
by
euram
To: oh8eleven
Our cars are keyless. I have a carbon monoxide detector in our bedroom.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:08:40 AM PDT
by
willk
(everyone)
To: aquila48
My first thought.
It’s an easy fix.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:10:11 AM PDT
by
Zeneta
To: BobL
Anyone that has a garage. Were are people supposed to park their cars?
I don't understand why it is so convenient not to use a key.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:10:24 AM PDT
by
Jim from C-Town
(The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
To: BobL
Me. I park mine in the garage. And I have to check before I exit once in awhile to make sure Ive hit the off button. My car is so quiet you cant hear it running, especially if the air conditioner is on.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:12:05 AM PDT
by
sheana
To: euram
Newer cars are almost silent. Many people, particularly older people do not hear well.
The real question is why are buttons and dials more convenient than using a key?
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:12:35 AM PDT
by
Jim from C-Town
(The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
To: euram
“the real question is, what kind of an idiot forgets to push the big button on the dashboard to turn off their engine? and Who cant hear that their car is still running?”
Answer: many of the elderly
1. Elderly people are often forgetful as their brains age
2. Elderly people often develop hearing loss AND almost always eyesight problems as they age ...
Some day, if you make it that long, you’ll understand what I’m talking about ...
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:13:42 AM PDT
by
catnipman
((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
To: euram
My car is so quiet you cant hear it running, especially if the radio or air conditioning is on. Ive got to where I check the dashboard before I exit. If its still lit up the car is running.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:14:08 AM PDT
by
sheana
To: aquila48
Or maybe auto-shutoff when the fob is more than ten meters from the steering column? (I picked 10m because that’s already the nominal Bluetooth range...)
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:15:39 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Urban "food deserts," are caused by "climate change" in urban customers' attitudes (H/T niteowl77))
To: euram
That idiot would probably be me. If I am distracted just enough... lets just say its amazing that Ive never burnt down my house, caused a car accident, and have all my fingers and toes.
To: Jim from C-Town
I don't understand why it is so convenient not to use a key.
Agree. I also don't understand how digital controls, i.e. heat/ac, radio controls, etc., are better than "old fashioned" buttons and levers.
Pain in the arse and a huge distraction.
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posted on
05/13/2018 9:21:25 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
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