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Fox Business guest says torture ‘worked’ on 'Songbird' John McCain
The Washington Post ^ | May 10, 2018 | Erik Wemple

Posted on 05/10/2018 12:52:20 PM PDT by Trump20162020

During a discussion with host Charles Payne on Fox Business Network, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney was asked to opine on the criticism faced by Gina Haspel, who was grilled on Wednesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee in her pursuit of confirmation for the top job at the CIA. Having played a role in the CIA’s interrogation/torture program during the 2000s, Haspel waffled a bit as Democratic senators pushed her on the morality of the methods, which are no longer in force.

McInerney was riding with Trump on this one: “It’s very simple to me, Charles. If we have some terrorists and the possibility of five nuclear weapons going off in U.S. cities, I want to use any method that will determine where they are, when it’s going to happen and how we can nullify them,” he said. “I’m not interested in values. I’m interested in saving a million American lives. It is very simple. And that kabuki that went on yesterday on the Senate intel committee by the Democratic members is the [inaudible] set of questions I’ve ever heard. And it ought to ensure all our viewers — never elect a Democrat again. ”

Payne noted that McCain himself, a Republican, had declined to endorse Haspel and asked McInerney how lawmakers should evaluate the nominee. “Well, she can’t use it anymore because we’ve determined — the Congress — that it’s not legal. The fact is, is John McCain — it worked on John. That’s why they call him ‘Songbird John,’ ” said McInerney, who was appearing on the network as a guest, though he formerly served as a Fox News contributor.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona
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To: PapaBear3625

Mclame was a hero for flying over Vietnam.
That said, ANYONE held in Communist captivity
and subject to indoctrination has no place in
our political system except as a voter.

Question: How do we know he’s even still alive?


61 posted on 05/10/2018 2:50:45 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Of course if you can verify it you probably already have a better source.


62 posted on 05/10/2018 2:54:18 PM PDT by discostu (It's been so long, welcome back my friend, to the show, that never ends.)
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To: Trump20162020

“The fact is, is John McCain — it (torture) worked on John.”

There is that...


63 posted on 05/10/2018 2:57:21 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Trump20162020
"Songbird John..."

Should be engraved on his tombstone...

64 posted on 05/10/2018 3:01:41 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: discostu
Of if you can verify it you probably already have a better source.

In the case of the bomb, you know he's telling the truth if the bomb is where he says.

For terrorists, you ask things like "How can we find person X?", "Where do you keep your stuff?", "How do we decode the messages you've been sending?", "What is the password to this iPhone?" -- things where you can look and see if his info checks out.

There's other methods. Ask the subject for lots of details. "Where did you meet X? Oh, it was a restaurant? What did you order? The restaurant was closed that day, you just earned more waterboarding".

Are you confident you can keep a false story straight, under stress? Remember all the false details you said after days of no sleep? Eventually, you will decide that only the truth will save you from bad experiences.

65 posted on 05/10/2018 3:07:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: ransomnote; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

ouch! Songbird’s gonna have some sharp words for the Lt. Gen. ....


66 posted on 05/10/2018 3:09:52 PM PDT by bitt (Back when we had CHILD CONTROL we really didn't need GUN CONTROL)
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To: discostu
" Relationship building takes longer, but you get better info."

In what universe?

Near death everyone tells the truth...The sooner you get a raghead's testicles next to or encompassing, an acetylene torch flame, the sooner you get the absolute truth...

67 posted on 05/10/2018 3:10:12 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Trump20162020

..Charles Payne just apologized on behalf of the network, calling the comments reprehensible. Guess the general will be banned—Fox is a deep state still...


68 posted on 05/10/2018 3:13:47 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

Deep state shill


69 posted on 05/10/2018 3:14:34 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: SuperLuminal

No they don’t. Near death people will say what they think will make them not near death. Friend of mine was an interrogator for the Army for over 20 years. He said step one of getting good information out of people was giving them a hot meal, a hot shower and clean clothes.


70 posted on 05/10/2018 3:16:52 PM PDT by discostu (It's been so long, welcome back my friend, to the show, that never ends.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Problem with that kind of validation is you’re putting lives on the line. Which brings up the question of how many lives you’re willing to bet on the guy telling the truth vs whatever he needs to say to make the pain stop.

Unfortunately in the world of torture the truth doesn’t necessarily make things stop. The truth is messy, things aren’t remembered fully, things aren’t known fully, the guy can’t tell you what he doesn’t know. He’s actually much more likely to be able to give you a “whole” story that’s made up, he “knows” all the parts of that, he’s making them up. If you’re torturing a guy and he tells you the truth and you don’t believe him just once you’ve pushed him into fabrication land, he has no choice he needs the pain to stop.


71 posted on 05/10/2018 3:21:08 PM PDT by discostu (It's been so long, welcome back my friend, to the show, that never ends.)
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To: Trump20162020

I generally like Charles Payne (the Fox host) but later today he gave a chicken-shit disclaimer regarding the General’s remarks. I really respect the General for echoing my low regard for the no-name traitor.


72 posted on 05/10/2018 3:27:14 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Trump20162020

McCain was the only POW of the North Veitnames to gain wait while under their control.


73 posted on 05/10/2018 3:35:48 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Trump20162020

ouch


74 posted on 05/10/2018 3:38:27 PM PDT by Conserv
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To: Trump20162020

I saw it . Couldn’t believe someone finally had the guts to say it !


75 posted on 05/10/2018 3:46:19 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: JME_FAN

The NVM and Japs on PT-109

What bad aim changed history for the worst


76 posted on 05/10/2018 3:51:10 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey brainwashed students . . . where's your "outrage" @FBI? @BrowardSheriff? DO SOMETHING!!)
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To: Trump20162020

Let us just say that JM took off in a few more aircraft than he returned to starting point with or a ‘safe’ touchdown.

Probably a VERY good argument in had it not been for McStains Admiral Grandfather and Career Naval Officer Father, he probably would have washed out of the Academy.

And equally sure that without the ‘Rabbi(s)’ the only way he would have seen Pensacola was as a non Naval Aviator/Trainee.

History has already given us ‘Wrong Way Corrigan’, maybe they will grace us with

“ONE WAY MCCAIN”

Notice he seems to be ‘speaking’ more coherently now that he is on ‘Deaths Door’.... OR someone is dropping timely quotes to keep stirring the pot.

WHY aren’t the citizens of AZ not raising hell over not being represented in the US Senate? The cowardly SOB is trying to live up to the Self-Imposed(??) ‘Maverick’ label.


77 posted on 05/10/2018 3:58:11 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""Liberals suffer from PTDS -PRESIDENT TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME")
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To: Trump20162020

OUCH!!!


78 posted on 05/10/2018 4:04:15 PM PDT by Soros Billions (Gore is a pussy, Hillary : There's a man for ya)
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To: Trump20162020

Hee hee hee.


79 posted on 05/10/2018 4:05:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: raygunfan

BTTT.

Pics, thousand words.


80 posted on 05/10/2018 4:07:49 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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