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U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case
www.reuters.com ^ | 05/04/2018 | Sarah N. Lynch

Posted on 05/04/2018 9:00:17 AM PDT by Red Badger

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (Reuters) - A federal judge on Friday sharply criticized Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case in Virginia against President Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and openly questioned whether Mueller exceeded his prosecutorial powers by bringing it.

“I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis in the Eastern District of Virginia said.

At tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, the judge said Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

Manafort is facing charges in both Virginia and Washington. The Virginia case charges him with offenses including tax and bank fraud. The other case accuses him of conspiring to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent when he lobbied for the pro-Russia Ukrainian government.

None of the charges relate, however, to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign or possible collusion with Russia. Trump has denied any collusion.

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To: Red Badger

Good for this judge. Too bad Sessions didn’t do this himself...... many months ago.


41 posted on 05/04/2018 9:20:21 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: CodeToad
What crime was initially reported that even allowed for a special prosecutor??

None, it was the hysterical media and Dems that prompted it, should not have happened.

42 posted on 05/04/2018 9:20:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Maybe. Or one that looked at the paperwork and saw what a corrupt disaster it is and it landing in his courtroom, has realized he better get ahead of this thing, quick, or he’s going down in history as part of the Mueller’s crime syndicate.

I think it’s apparent that, with Mueller’s request for blank subpoena’s with regards to Manafort’s case, he has nothing. All he’s going to do with them, is go after any of Manafort’s business contacts. Manufacture some connection and dig into those people’s lives. If he finds something, he’ll make sure they role on Manafort to avoid federal prison.

Manafort has money and a spine. He isn’t rolling over for Mueller, DOJ, FBI or anyone else. His case is weaker than a fart in a fan factory.

He asked for the evidence that the SC has, of him talking to the Russians. They don’t have it, because there isn’t any.

If the Cohen situation blows up in their face, as it should, Kimba Wood is going down with the ship as a partisan hack that abused her position to aid in this train wreck. It would appear that this judge doesn’t want be a part of the team when it’s all said and done.


44 posted on 05/04/2018 9:23:56 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Fantasywriter

Bless this judge—and I mean that most reverently. He is an island of sanity in a sea of Trump-haters.


Amen.


45 posted on 05/04/2018 9:25:15 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Red Badger

Rush Limbaugh is talking about this right now.


46 posted on 05/04/2018 9:27:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: Red Badger

“I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis in the Eastern District of Virginia said.


47 posted on 05/04/2018 9:27:17 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Regulator
“He was walking home at 3 AM in the morning when he was overcome with anguish and depression and shot himself 5 times...in the back, with one of those evil AR-15 rifles."

Just thought I would finish the story, with a little more of the unreported details of the incident - LOL!
48 posted on 05/04/2018 9:27:20 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: Flick Lives
Not 100% sure but I believe this may be him ....
49 posted on 05/04/2018 9:27:38 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Gator113

Agree.....especially since it is clearly NOT related to Sessions foolish recusal.


50 posted on 05/04/2018 9:28:15 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
“I don’t see what relationship this indictment has with anything the special counsel is authorized to investigate,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis in the Eastern District of Virginia said. At tense hearing at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Virginia, the judge said Mueller should not have “unfettered power” in his Russia probe and that the charges against Manafort did not arise from the investigation into Moscow’s alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.
Whoa. Rule of law? From a judge? Thanks Red Badger.

51 posted on 05/04/2018 9:28:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Ralph E. Juergens, Stellar Thermonuclear Energy -- A False Trail?)
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To: 1Old Pro
None, it was the hysterical media and Dems that prompted it

Wrong, IMHO. session, comey, rosenweasel and mueller are all repubs. It was a repub house, congress and gopE that prompted it.
52 posted on 05/04/2018 9:29:28 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: Red Badger

That’s what you and I believe. The Left thinks a single judge can determine national policy.


53 posted on 05/04/2018 9:29:43 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: Louis Foxwell

Therein lies the rub, doesn’t it?

They don’t want anyone seeing that document. It has the potential to blow this whole thing wide open. The only way they could keep it from the public is to declare it some type of national security secret. If they try that, then how do the charges against Manafort jibe with that angle.

I think they all thought all the peripheral folks would roll over and do the dying cockroach, on the President. I don’t think they ever envisioned that someone like Manafort would fight back, that Page would provide them with nothing and that it would never get out that their guy at the FBI didn’t think Gen Flynn lied and they charged him anyway.


54 posted on 05/04/2018 9:29:59 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Reno89519

I don’t like that he criticized but didn’t dismiss... could be virtue signaling before he does the opposite of sane.


55 posted on 05/04/2018 9:30:38 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If there is to be war, let it begin here.)
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To: Red Badger

Rush opened with this story today.


56 posted on 05/04/2018 9:30:49 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Red Badger; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
He also asked the special counsel’s office to share privately with him a copy of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosentein’s August 2017 memo elaborating on the scope of Mueller’s Russia probe. He said the current version he has been heavily redacted.

Pattern. As in the FISA warrants, they again are asking a judge to make a decision while withholding relevant information from him.

I'd slam them.

57 posted on 05/04/2018 9:31:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Did we accidentally stumble across a sane judge?

Heard Rush say today that this judge is a Reagan appointee.

I am very happy to see some judge question the meandering nature of Special Counsels.

Mueller has a certain task; and, I believe he has completed that task when it comes to light that there is no collusion (which I believe happened this week). Yet, he persists, and is wandering around, looking for a crime to hang onto the POTUS. Good for this judge in telling him he is overstepping his mandate.

58 posted on 05/04/2018 9:32:16 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: 1Old Pro

https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Black-Robes-Failed-Justice-ebook/dp/B002VBWEZK


59 posted on 05/04/2018 9:32:50 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: CodeToad

I can see now that the immense leverage the FBI has over the Executive is he can say you can’t fire me because I might be investigating you, and that would be obstruction of justice. Trump called his bluff. So the SC was appointed to see if he obstructed. Or so I thought.


60 posted on 05/04/2018 9:33:51 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If there is to be war, let it begin here.)
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