Posted on 04/24/2018 7:03:22 AM PDT by EdnaMode
California's secession movement will get a second try as the state's "war" against the Trump administration rages on several fronts.
On Monday, the California Secretary of State's Office announced that a secession ballot proposal has been cleared to begin gathering needed signatures. It comes amid other efforts that seek to split up California
"Calexit is left — we are progressive, and that's why we don't like Trump," said Marcus Ruiz Evans, one of the leaders of the Yes California campaign seeking California independence. "But there are some very hardcore Republican concepts to Calexit, including the group saying don't waste our tax money."
Evans said the group's membership has risen by "about four times" to roughly 44,000 members since the election of President Donald Trump
A similar effort by the backers of Calexit failed last year after negative fallout emerged following the disclosure that its leader, Louis J. Marinelli, was living in Russia. Marinelli, who is still listed as one of the backers of the measure, said in an interview he "travels to Russia and has worked there from time to time but is still a resident of California."
If the current Calexit measure gets enough signatures to qualify, it would result in a special election in 2021 to ask California voters whether the state should become an independent country. The backers need almost 366,000 signatures of registered voters to qualify it for the ballot.
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How can we help you make this happen?
Of course those parts of California wanting to secede and form their own state within the US must be permitted to do so.
Didn’t the south try this a number of years ago. That didn’t go well.
Like a bitter woman, California will be demanding alimony and support.
Jerry Brown for Security General \o/
YES!!!!!!! But by county option only, and Mexifornia becomes a protectorate of the USA.
Mexicans have colonized CA and do not intend to give it back.
Wasn’t the problem with secession dealt with by Salmon P. Chase in a SCOTUS ruling about Texas back in 1869?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White
In accepting original jurisdiction, the court ruled that, legally speaking, Texas had remained a United States state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case.
****In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”.[2]****
If Calexit comes to pass, which of the three states remain in the US? Also, will the ratification process pass? And most importantly, only one person gives final approval of the deal; the President of the United States.
Can you imagine if this all comes down to Trump having to sign off on this?
Something tells me they will angle for a deal to keep those votes, yet not have to pay into a Trump tax coffer.
In regard to splitting California into three states, this is provided for in the Constitution, Article 4, Section 3:
“...no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”
Based on this, if the California legislature votes to split into three states, all it takes is a majority vote in the House of Representatives and Senate to make it so. There is no requirement that the Executive approve it in any way.
As far as State secession goes, I do not believe it is Constitutional at all. There is no provision for it in the Constitution by design. And we had a war that decided that.
Totally true. I work in Silicon Valley but have a weekend house in the Sierras. Everyone up there is conservative. If California voted to secede, counties like that one would leave California to stay in the US. And given that’s where all the water comes from (for Northern Cal at least)......
How can I help? Is there also a parallel effort #CALGONE underway to expel them from the USA?
My God California has the 9th largest GDP in the world. They’ll be fine.
That’s a good idea!
LOL
The irony is that the real answer is much more robust Federalism. Scale back the federal government and give the states a lot more power over domestic issues. Let the Feds just take care of Defense, foreign policy, border control, etc.
They probably would.
That is poppycock.
I’m fine with Californians wanting to secede from the union. Pack up your crap and drive north till you enter Canada or south until you get into Mexico and good riddance because America is going to keep the land.
You make a good point.
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