Posted on 04/23/2018 6:27:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
In a piece for The Federalist entitled, “It’s Time For The United States To Divorce Before Things Get Dangerous,” writer and former Marine corp combat veteran Jesse Kelly ruffled more than a few feathers with his contention that the time for the United States as a united nation may be nearing an inevitable end.
Comparing the Left and Right in America to “the couple screaming at each other all night, every night as the kids hide in their room,” Kelly cites a congenial divorce as the best option for a country that’s “hopelessly divided” on seemingly every important issue. He even tweeted a helpful accompanying map with a hand-drawn red line ceding the Left coast and the northern states to the liberal governance they deserve.
In his piece, Kelly cites issues from gun control to border security, issues that, while both sides hopelessly disagree, will soon prompt increasingly intolerant Leftists to “start coming for the careers (and lives) of any normal American who sees things differently.”
“We both now agree that living under the other side’s value system is wholly unacceptable,” writes Kelly. “The most peaceful solution we Americans can hope for now is to go our separate ways. So let us come together one last time and agree on one thing: Irreconcilable differences.”
Naturally, Kelly’s idea drew quite a lot of criticism. HotAir’s Jazz Shaw pondered the legality, logistics and workability of such a proposal, but didn’t seem to take a lot of issue with the underlying inevitability.
CNN commentator Sally Kohn took him on when Kelly’s controversial piece earned him an appearance on HLN’s S.E. Cupp Unfiltered. “I’m sure we could find plenty to disagree about, but I actually think there’s quite a lot we could agree on,” said Kohn, citing values like “unity, but also free speech, free assembly, freedom of religion” as well as “the idea that we should all be able to live up to our God-given full potential.”
Except, liberals don’t believe in free speech, much less free assembly. And they don’t really believe in freedom of religion either, at least if you’re a Christian. And that “God” in “God-given?” Are you serious, Kohn?
California State Controller candidate Konstantinos Roditis penned a rebuttal of Kelly’s argument from the right, arguing for a return to real federalism instead of creating more countries. “Jesse, it’s not time for a divorce,” writes Roditis. “It’s time we rise up and take our country back and finally break the shackles of overbearing centralized government and go back to our roots of self-government and self-determination.”
Sounds great, in theory. Let’s ‘take our country back’ and establish REAL small government! Problem is, on what planet will liberals with an already burgeoning near-supermajority possibly allow something like this? After all, Big Government is how these people get stuff done.
While the non-legal arguments against Kelly’s hypothesis seem pretty weak, they say little about what would be best for all parties involved. To a kid who grew up in the 80’s, before unadulterated political correctness infested America’s schools, “Manifest Destiny,” the idea that our settlers were destined to spread all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, seemed more common sense and a source of pride to me than controversial and worthy of shame. And even now, the idea of America splitting up pulls at the heartstrings just a little.
But let’s face it, America will never again be the America we grew up in. Progressivism has ruined it, and likely beyond repair. Beyond the idea of a nation spreading its wings and conquering the wilderness is that of self-governance, of people being free to live in the kind of place, and under the kind of government, of their choosing, whether what they choose is limited, Constitutional government or utter liberal lunacy.
To Roditis’ point, the states were supposed to be the vehicle for that, under a limited federal government, but we all know how THAT turned out. If we aren’t going to do federalism right, perhaps divorce is the only way forward.
Interestingly, Bill Hammond tweeted a link to both Kelly’s Federalist piece and a Medium article entitled “The Great Lesson of California in America’s New Civil War” from the Left under the caption “These two articles should be hate-read in tandem.” In the Medium piece, Peter Leyden cites California’s example as the way forward for a divisive America. Except, rather than let conservatives pave their own way as Kelly would, Leyden wants to establish “Democratic, progressive supermajorities” in the rest of America.
In other words - tyranny. And make no mistake, if liberals seize control via supermajorities, and they aren’t all that far off, tyranny is how they enact their insane, unworkable policies on the rest of us. Because from Soviet Russia to Communist China and socialist Venezuela, that’s what always happens when Leftists have unadulterated power.
Granted, the idea of bringing up an issue that was seemingly settled over 150 years ago might be quick to dismiss, but in an era when people can’t even agree on whether Donald Trump is a real person or the actual, physical spawn of Satan, how can we possibly reach a consensus on anything? Which means that whatever we do, half the country isn’t just going to be unhappy, they’ll be apoplectic.
And these days, the idea isn’t just coming from the Right. The Calexit movement would secede California from the United States entirely, and it’s more financed and organized than you might think. Perhaps it’s time to give them what they want.
“[Conservatives’ reasons for splitting] would be a major cultural shift toward the left and half the country refusing to go along with tyranny,” writes Kelly. Liberals’ reasons might be a desire to run things their own way without the adults in the room interfering. But either way, the way I see it there are three possibilities for America’s future - unrest, tyranny, or divorce.
We’re already seeing the unrest, and it’s happening on a massive scale as liberals #Resist literally every move President Trump makes.
Should these jackals eventually get their “permanent Democratic majority,” we’ll certainly see the tyranny.
Which leaves the one other option, that put forward in Kelly’s controversial piece. Sure, it won’t be this year, or this decade, or probably even in my lifetime, but its eventual inevitability seems as ‘destined’ as America’s historic expansion to the Pacific.
How do you divide a country like ours? There are pockets of leftists in every red state including the south and west. Both Coasts are loaded with leftists and there are also pockets of conservatives on both coasts.
We can't loose nor let them win by default but thank you for your thoughts on the subject. As long as we are talking and battling with ideas, we are less likely to kill one another.
Q says we will be unified again.
Thanks to Donald Trump the growing democrat led tyranny is on temporary hold.
But they are planning a vicious comeback and will be even more tyrannical and despotic when they regain some of their lost power.
This situation does not have much hope for a happy ending until the democrat party is destroyed and the education system is wrenched from the hands of the ultra-liberals.
Divorce.
Pacifica, New England and Murka.
I see you are joking so there is no need to over react. However, have you ever contemplated the cost of a civil war in the twenty first century? Something to think about anyway.
Dunno in an amicable “divorce” is possible... the “Blue” spouse is used to taking the resources (aka: taxes) of the “Red” spouse to live on an promote their agenda. So in the divorce the “Blue” will demand a HUGE “alimony” payment... cause the rich billionaires promoting this “Progressive” tyranny don’t plan to spend much of their resources to fund this “new Blue” Socialist “Utopia”.
Cause in truth... “Blue” America has the mindset of the Plantation “owner”... with “Red” America being the slaves. Cause bottom line Socialism is much like an Old South slave plantation. “Owners” in the mansion on the hill and slaves in the mud huts. Your truth lesson for today.
We have removed the main barrier to out-of-control government.
A currency, backed by something that central planners can’t print.
Our Federal Reserve and fiat, unbacked, printed currency is the absolute foundation of statist, progressive government, and all the social consequences that come with it.
“...War - and the sooner the better.....”
As bad as I hate to say, or even worse, to see it, the “solution is knocking on our door. I never thought I’d live to see the day that this country would go down the path that these insane SOBs have taken us. We are waaaaay past the ballot box with these crazy azzholes. The time has come to completely rid ourselves of this insane, commie, globalist scum and vermin once and for all, and put this country back on course.
Use the 2016 electoral map. A lot of red states are being left out.
The fourth path: Aliens or muslims nuke Washington, DC.
(While the First Family is at Mar-a-Lago)
“In his piece, Kelly cites issues from gun control to border security, issues that, while both sides hopelessly disagree, will soon prompt increasingly intolerant Leftists to “start coming for the careers (and lives) of any normal American who sees things differently.”
Truer words were never spoken.
The unbelievable hateful rhetoric now being SPOKEN against “normal Americans” in Academia, Media, urbania, will soon turn to action.
It’s only a matter of time.
Oh, there is precedence, the Civil War. One country two cultures trying to live together, our obligation is to see that it does not turn to blows.
Allow each state to vote which way to go and give those unhappy with their state’s vote ten years to relocate. Of course this is too simple for a very complicated situation.
I have noticed that people are already self segregating. Just recently a California company closed up shop and moved to Texas. I think we shall see lot more of that in the future.
I know people with the same bizarre thinking. I've got a friend who besides many hunting rifles, shotguns, etc... owns several AR-15s, especially with illegal add-ons, like large clips, etc... "No one is taking my guns!" he will roar.
Then in the next breath, he will criticize the NRA, vote Democrat, promoted Hillary, etc.... Just bizarre.
The rest of us who know him just shake our heads. I've told him, when the SHTF, you are going to have to make a choice, friend, and I know what that choice will be.
Needs access to Pacific ocean....
I tend to agree with your optimistic outlook. The one wild-card that needs to be addressed and defeated is the Media. Virtually every reporter, newspaper, and television network are raging Leftists and therefore public enemies. The Media must be addressed. I believe fervently in the First Amendment and reject the concept of throttling the Media. We need to find ways to fix it. I’m not smart enough to suggest a solution. That may be a place to start.
Put San Diego up to Irvine in that map. We are going to need a Pacific Port.
Nuke the San Andreas........................
We have to do something, I fear we are losing our Constitution and the very foundation that made America great in the first place.
We love this country as it was founded. They have nothing but contempt for long dead white guys. How do you reconcile those opposing views?
80% of Maine....the Second Congressional District....is rather conservative with more gun rights than Texas....concealed carry, Constitutional carry, etc.
And the Dakotas, Montana and Idaho in liberal land? Screw that map. Not gonna fly.
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