Posted on 04/03/2018 11:57:40 AM PDT by C19fan
Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman speculated the Mueller special counsel probe will result in some sort of finding that will lead to a “constitutional crisis.”
That according to Friedman will lead to former Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama having to step and prevent a constitutional crisis.
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Most libtard talking heads are pure flatulence.
>>I think it will be a hybrid of the first Civil War with whole areas of the country seceding and some area where there is no demarcation, mostly in the blue states.
>>How do you get to neighbor on neighbor fighting in Utah, Montana and Kansas?
It is so sad that a decent conversation can’t be made because of the absolutists that assume that every statement is made without consideration for exceptions.
But, in answer to your question: Salt Lake City, Kansas City. Check the demographics for those cities. Now, Montana might be safe, but there are a lot of Californicators in Montana. What do you do with this fifth column that is hiding in plain sight when the CW is raging across America?
IN some areas, victory will be easier than in others. Our side will be obliterated in Chicago and New Orleans, but southern Illinois and most of LA will be more of a fight. But, when I say neighbor vs neighbor, I mean in typical American suburbia where “diversity is our greatest strength” and the hardcore Trump supporter lives next door to the braindead “I’m With Her” zombie. Do we keep exchanging pleasantries every morning as we get in the car as the Progressives are arranging a coup to unseat our president?
Despite the bloodshed on the battlefield, the American War Between the States was not a typical Civil War. The history of real civil wars is man at its absolute worst with the aftermath being as bad or worse than the actual war.
All the people who have this romantic notion of CW2 being an honorable fight between militias, with a peaceful outcome for both sides after short but glorious fight are, quite frankly, fools. There is no America after the CW that the Progs are forcing on us. If we’re lucky, there are 5 or 6 Americas who are too tired to fight anymore. But, the breakup will not happen peacefully because no one will be willing to give up all they have to be a refugee in a new place.
If there were to be a rebellion in the future, it would be nothing like the unfortunate events of the American Civil War.
The main reason is that the states are, in fact, more like inferior, subsidiary departments of the US federal government rather than autonomous states as in 1860: none of today’s state governments would be favorably disposed to a rebellion and, even if one state were so inclined, the allegiance of its inhabitants is, in general, to the federal rather than to the state governments. Unlike 1860, the state governments are far too dependent upon both the funds and the legitimacy that the federal government confers upon them.
Lacking any authoritative organization with which to organize and direct a civil war, a significant rebellion would be easily suppressed by both federal and state authorities. Yes, it could be bloody, but it would also be even more futile than the state secessions were in 1861. And the consequences would be far, far worse.
Half of the country seems to hate the other half. It would be nice if an amicable divorce could be achieved, but at least one of those two halves won’t be satisfied until the other half submits. Clearly one of the two sides (and a fairly large fraction of the other side) refuses to acknowledge the legitimacy of democratic elections.
The only prospect for the continuation of traditional American values and virtues is for conservatives, libertarians, and other reasonably sane people to educate themselves, to think clearly, and to participate peacefully and energetically in the political system to defeat the socialists, communists, and nihilists who seek destruction and the crony capitalists and self-serving politicians who seek corruption. Civil war is not an option.
Whole areas of the USA will not have internecine warfare. Just became a city has a large black/ethnic pollution doesn’t mean there will be fighting there. What you are saying is there will be a race war. I am saying whole sections of the USA will declare its independence just to be done with the farce that the republic has became. Probably there will be no war between them at all.
Thank you for your intelligent and thought provoking post.
If Trump is forced out in a deep state coup then I see violence as inevitable. Trump is trying to save the Republic and his supporters see this. If the forces of evil destroy his Presidency I believe the silent majority of patriots who endured the Bush/ Clinton/Obama years of destruction will be forced to breaking point.
I do no relish bloodshed, and I hope Trump will be President for 8 years and MAGA. If satanist forced prevent him doing this, then all bets are off.
>>Whole areas of the USA will not have internecine warfare. Just became a city has a large black/ethnic pollution doesn’t mean there will be fighting there. What you are saying is there will be a race war. I am saying whole sections of the USA will declare its independence just to be done with the farce that the republic has became. Probably there will be no war between them at all.
OK. You’re probably right.
where is the Ha-Ha icon?
If you haven’t figured out that Russiagate is an attempted coup to restore Obama to the presidency, well, here’s another clue...
I think Friedman is floating the idea as a proxy for someone else. Likely Obama.
Very true.
Also, in most states, about one-third of the population votes for the candidate that lost the state, so you don't have the kind of homogeneity that produced the Civil War. The split in the country is more urban versus rural, so dividing lines run through states, rather than between them.
Lacking any authoritative organization with which to organize and direct a civil war, a significant rebellion would be easily suppressed by both federal and state authorities. Yes, it could be bloody, but it would also be even more futile than the state secessions were in 1861. And the consequences would be far, far worse.
That's also true. But any group that takes up arms against the federal government is likely to be seen as - and to be - extremist and dangerous. So the "Civil War II" situation is a game of "chicken." The group that revolts is likely to be repressed, so each side may try to maneuver the other into rebellion.
They have been teamed up all along.
I was not aware that an ex-President or an ex-usurper had any legitimate constitutional authority. Is there something I missed?
I guess I missed the part of the Constitution that talks about Special Counsels.
Go back when these liberals were saying BusHitler.
Hypocrites
Another leftist fan fic.
Depose Trump Bolshevik style and make Hillary the supreme leader and president for life..
Problem solved
What constitutional crises?
Joe, Mika, and the others on the show confirm the beliefs their guests have and push them ever further into exaggeration.
If a president is forced out of office it will be because those from their own party in Congress tell them that they no longer have the support on Capitol Hill.
Nixon resigned because Barry Goldwater, John Rhodes and Hugh Scott told him that Senate Republicans couldn't be counted on to impose his conviction if the House impeached.
If the most loyal and ideologically sound members of your party say they won't support you, you're through.
But that's a far cry from Obama (from the other party) and Bush (discredited in his own party) "stepping in" and imposing a solution on the nation.
That's an Establishment fantasy that doesn't reflect where the country is right now.
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