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Experts: Uber self-driving system should have spotted woman
AP ^ | March 22, 2018 | TOM KRISHER and JACQUES BILLEAUD

Posted on 03/22/2018 9:31:12 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

No exerpt.

Video of accident at link.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autonomous; uber
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Question: Do these vehicles have the ability to swerve or only brake


41 posted on 03/22/2018 10:21:21 AM PDT by diggerwillow
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To: Drew68

They’ll get better over time. Airliners are practically self-flying these days. All the pilot really does is start the engines and taxi them to the runway. They take off, fly to their destination and land all by computer. The pilot just monitors the gauges.

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I watched a short 20 minute Airbus flight on Youtube. The pilots spent most of their time pulling out their laptops and doing paperwork. There were drawers that pulled out just like on a computer desk.


42 posted on 03/22/2018 10:26:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, perhaps, that’s why I said “maybe”. And yes, due to bad publicity, self-driving cars are in for a serious setback. It will return eventually I think.


43 posted on 03/22/2018 10:27:05 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen)
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To: Moonman62
I watched a short 20 minute Airbus flight on Youtube. The pilots spent most of their time pulling out their laptops and doing paperwork. There were drawers that pulled out just like on a computer desk.

Not too many ladies pushing their bicycles in the path of a plane at 30,000 feet.

(ducking for cover)

44 posted on 03/22/2018 10:28:26 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen)
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To: Drew68

They’ll get better over time. Airliners are practically self-flying these days.

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Yes they will. It’s shocking to look back in the past and see how common airliner accidents were at one time.


45 posted on 03/22/2018 10:28:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Would a driverless vehicle smash into another vehicle in order to avoid hitting a child that suddenly ran into the street? Would it swerve into oncoming traffic to avoid a dog? Would it run a red light to avoid someone about to crash into your rear end?


46 posted on 03/22/2018 10:30:03 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Alberta's Child
Not too many cases where a pedestrian is liable....not even a little bit.

Example....someone is in a parking lot....there are no crosswalks....so I can hit him??

And remember, this car had not one....but two drivers. One was dozing...the other (the magic car), all his life, wanted a bike.

47 posted on 03/22/2018 10:30:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: I want the USA back
The primary "vision" unit on the autonomous vehicle is a LIDAR system, short for Light Detection and Ranging (or a mash-up of Light and Radar, depending on the source you check). To enable the split-second decision-making needed for self-driving cars, the LIDAR system provides accurate 3D information on the surrounding environment. Using this data, the processor implements object identification, motion vector determination, collision prediction, and avoidance strategies. The LIDAR unit is well-suited to "big picture" imaging, and provides the needed 360⁰ view by using a rotating, scanning mirror assembly on the top of the car.
48 posted on 03/22/2018 10:31:58 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (He who lacks the will does not need the ability.)
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To: Flick Lives
This woman on a bike is one of those scenarios that was not anticipated

I have to push back on this. A person in the middle of the street "was not anticipated"? Come on. A self-driving car doesn't use radar / lidar / sonar sensors to stay between the lines; those things are for figuring out where things are. As I wrote in an earlier response, if it's not able to avoid a person right in front of it on a straight road, it shouldn't be out in public.

Secondly, many cars in the last two or three years have a "follow" option that keeps you following a safe distance behind the car in front of you. If that car slows down, you slow down. Nobody can make the claim that this sensor technology exists without software to make use of the information gathered.

49 posted on 03/22/2018 10:32:28 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: robroys woman

You might have hit her if you had tunnel vision...but I believe there was a crosswalk up ahead. The camera didn’t do the lady justice.


50 posted on 03/22/2018 10:37:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: HamiltonJay

indeed - the victim, Elaine, was carefully crossing the street safely and exercising normal due care.

Headlights illuminate at least 200 feet, plus victim was crossing under streetlanps.

200 feet at 35 MPH is about 4 seconds,

negligent homicide


51 posted on 03/22/2018 10:37:27 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: I want the USA back
I was amused to hear one of the design engineers say the cars will get better as they acquire more data. He said the car is like an inexperienced teen at the wheel.

Talk about tying your own noose.

52 posted on 03/22/2018 10:40:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

I’m taking that into account. I have a lot of videos of deer crossing in front of me at night.

That’s why I’m not positive, but pretty darned sure.


53 posted on 03/22/2018 10:43:22 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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To: I want the USA back

Once in bumper-to-bumper traffic, I noticed a lexus in the lane next to me continuously approaching the car in front of it, then slamming on the brakes at the last second. Every time traffic inched forward, the lexus did this.

Finally got next to it, and expected to see a small asian woman, squinting through glasses, with hands at 10 and 2.

Nope. It was a college girl, texting. She was relying on the car’s anti-collision system to avoid hitting the car ahead. When the car slammed on the brakes, she didn’t even look up.


54 posted on 03/22/2018 10:45:06 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: calljack
You could have steered off while you braked and you would have likely missed her.

We don't even know if the Uber car was going at the right speed for conditions.

55 posted on 03/22/2018 10:49:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Former Proud Canadian

If the sensors are not cleaned regularly, they won’t work right.


56 posted on 03/22/2018 10:49:45 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: Scooter100

The current technology is probably programmed to hit the smaller object. Although I don’t think most manufacturers have swerve capability that isn’t initiated by a safety driver.


57 posted on 03/22/2018 10:53:10 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The vehicle's headlights were on low beam setting. In the time between when the woman's sneakers first appear out of the dark, and the collision, a human driver would not have had time to stop the vehicle, either.

Having said that, I thought the autonomous vehicles had ultrasonic or RADAR collision sensing -- not dependent on optical lighting...

visible-light-optics dependent, then, the headlights definitely should have been on high beam.

58 posted on 03/22/2018 10:53:11 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: vooch
negligent homicide

The police have so far given the safety driver a pass even after viewing the video. They were actually quite quick about it. I am sure they are still reviewing it. I've read AZ doesn't have very strict distracted driving laws if any. That might be one of the reasons they are testing in AZ. If the homicide had occurred in my town, I suspect the driver would be facing negligent homicide charges.

59 posted on 03/22/2018 10:58:57 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: JoeProBono

(For once your tagline actually fits.)


60 posted on 03/22/2018 11:01:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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