Experts: Uber self-driving system should have spotted woman

AP ^ | March 22, 2018 | TOM KRISHER and JACQUES BILLEAUD

[Former Proud Canadian]

No exerpt.

Video of accident at link.

[TXnMA]

"I'm thinking a human would not only have had their brights on, they would have also been watching the road."

When driving on a well-lighted roadway? Mebbeso...

[TXnMA]

Thanks -- but "Linkee no Workee..." '-)

[vooch]

Sorry Charlie,

1) arguing its was dark and difficult to see is case against the driver for driving too fast for the conditions. Recall drivers ed where they taught you NEVER to drive faster than your headlights illuminate.

2) As all of us know, the camera image is ALWAYS darker than what the human eye sees. Added that this is a classic low res. camera, Elaine the victim was able to be seen at least 300 feet away. More than enough time to prevent killing her.

3) Finally, the onus is always on the person operating a deadly weapon in the public space. Its not on the victim to prove she behaved correctly.

[vooch]

Agreed - in most jurisdictions this would be a case of negligent homicide ( perhaps with some mitigating factors )

[ctdonath2]

And there’s shockingly many who would consider that a laudable solution.

[GingisK]

People Radar

In 1969 Army ROTC we were shown the AN/PPS-5 Ground Surveillance Radar. It was used to detect people moving around the perimeter at night. This was a live night time demonstration. It worked.

Young folks need to work with the older ones. You'd be surprised what we know that you don't.

[Sacajaweau]

Try googling a few of the words....worth reading...

[palmer]

I assume I would have hit her just like the stupid car did. And when I say stupid, I mean stupid, because it didn't even try to do anything.

The issue is not reaction time however, since the woman was doomed. The issue is whether we can recognize a human pushing a bicycle. We can. The computer cannot / could not. That is painfully obvious.

[Sacajaweau]

link worked for me just now

[outofsalt]

Woman should have spotted car!
Woman should have looked both ways!
Jaywalking has a Darwinian beauty to it.

[Ambrosia]

LOL, not mine...wish it thought it was too slow.

[TXnMA]

" Recall drivers ed where they taught you NEVER to drive faster than your headlights illuminate."

Somebody finally got it!

Ya think they maybe should send "self-driving" car programmers to that class?

[GingisK]

A proper mix of sensors and maybe even a splash of analog processing could go a long way toward reflex-like responses.

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[GingisK]

What is the matter with you? Are you SANE? ;-D

[GingisK]

I think Uber drivers should go on strike in order to stop this research that would put them out of a job. ;-D

[TXnMA]

The Forbes link still says, "Unable to parse..."

But, I expect this article is similar:

https://payment.redbook.com.au/news/2018/bmw/bmw-fires-shot-at-uber-111741...

[Former Proud Canadian]

Only on FR would you get this kind of analysis. In the tradition of Buckhead.

I have another question about this incident. Does the camera lens gather as much light as the human eye? In other words, are the night vision abilities of the camera equal to that of the human eye?

[outofsalt]

Flir is old school. SWIR is the shizzle!
http://www.sensorsinc.com/gallery/videos/

[outofsalt]

Equip them with "cow catchers"?!