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Prager youtube lawsuit challenged based on technical technicalities instead of it's content.
Techdirt ^ | 3-14-2018 | by Timothy Geigner

Posted on 03/14/2018 3:15:15 PM PDT by yodalego

YouTube Shows Dennis Prager's Claim Of Discrimination Against Conservatives Is Laughable

You will recall that Dennis Prager, the conservative commentator who also runs a YouTube channel to inform his viewers of his perspective on a variety of topics, recently sued YouTube. The meat of Prager's claims is that YouTube is censoring some of his videos purely because he is a conservative -- with the clear implication being that YouTube is a liberal bastion of conservative-hating video hosting. Just to be clear, there is no real evidence for that. What there is evidence for is that YouTube is trying very hard to sort through its hilariously enormous trove of video content for objectionable material, and that it often does this quite badly. None of that amounts to, as Prager claims, a liberal conspiracy against some conservative guy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: achillwind; bakethecake; censorship; culturewar; getprager; lawsuit; prager; timothygeigner; youtube; youtubebias
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1 posted on 03/14/2018 3:15:15 PM PDT by yodalego
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But just because one particular platform doesn’t think your content is appropriate for all audiences, it is not censorship

That is EXACTLY what the Baker and Photographers said about Gay Weddings!!


2 posted on 03/14/2018 3:18:07 PM PDT by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: yodalego

YouTube, Facebook, etc. should be classified as common carries and treated like the phone company.


3 posted on 03/14/2018 3:18:42 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: yodalego

Just pure coincidence, I assume /s


4 posted on 03/14/2018 3:37:47 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: yodalego

Those technical technicalities are the worst ones. The non-technical technicalities are much easier to deal with.


5 posted on 03/14/2018 3:42:12 PM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Petrosius
"YouTube, Facebook, etc. should be classified as common carriers and treated like the phone company."

Been saying this for years. They are effectively a monopoly or trust.

Liberals used to love busting those up.

Now that they are used to actually SUPPRESS conservative voices, they are an unaccountable machine.

Very dangerous for a free democracy or republic.

Sure, Google could say you could always use Bing, but how long until Bing pulls the same censoring of conservatives crap?

6 posted on 03/14/2018 3:42:37 PM PDT by boop (Top men are on the case. "Who are they?" I said TOP men. End of discussion.)
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To: yodalego

When it can be shown that this is happening to conservative content and not to liberal content - let alone blatantly racist and/or violent content - it is not a technical difficulty, it is bias.


7 posted on 03/14/2018 3:46:33 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: yodalego

Leftists at site like Techdirt (dirt is quite appropriate here) categorically deny any bias at Facebook, Twitter, Youtube... They even assert that O’Keefe’s Project Veritas videos don’t ever show any such bias.
So any attempt with logic and facts with them is useless.


8 posted on 03/14/2018 4:03:02 PM PDT by miniTAX (au)
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To: yodalego

Google and Facebook are engaged in systematic oppression of alternative viewpoints.

It ranges from outright banning/censoring to downranking so you’re harder to find to subtle “poisoning the well” tactics.
The Methods and Layers of Censorship on YouTube
https://hubpages.com/technology/The-Methods-and-Layers-of-Censorship-on-YouTube

They are so LARGE that their private business policies are interfering the rights of others to speak, to associate, to express their beliefs.


9 posted on 03/14/2018 4:09:27 PM PDT by tbw2
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"...What there is evidence for is that YouTube is trying very hard to sort through its hilariously enormous trove of video content for objectionable material, and that it often does this quite badly..."

Gee. That is interesting. Why then are there a large number of well known conservatives such as Prager, Bill Whittle, and Colin Flaherty (just to name three) who have been in ongoing battles with having their accounts "demonetized" or outright removed, but...we don't hear about any Leftists who are having the same things done to them?

10 posted on 03/14/2018 4:09:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the ‘Invisible Hand’ only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Petrosius

Agreed. Either regulate them as utilities or break them up under anti-trust.


11 posted on 03/14/2018 4:09:58 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: boop

Microsoft is starting to do the same. LinkedIn, owned by Microsoft, recently updated its terms of service to say you can be banned for hate speech.


12 posted on 03/14/2018 4:10:30 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: yodalego

” Just to be clear, there is no real evidence for that. “

Just this morning Twitter suspended me for sharing a Steve Crowder youtube video - which youtube banned two hours later. That’s the ticket, no real evidence.


13 posted on 03/14/2018 4:49:28 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: yodalego

Another lying lib.

Prager’s courses are on the Constitution and moved to “adult only” content.

Michele Malkin has long endured the same thing.

Prager’s investigation has found staffed youtubers doing the classification, it isn’t a software glitch.


14 posted on 03/14/2018 5:29:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn thvictims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: boop

They weren’t addressed in the so-called “net neutrality”. Their monopoly was actually made stronger by that power grab.


15 posted on 03/14/2018 5:30:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn thvictims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: yodalego
What there is evidence for is that YouTube is trying very hard to sort through its hilariously enormous trove of video content for objectionable material, and that it often does this quite badly.

When something like this happens to minorities, the leftists claim that "disparate impact" is proof of racial bias.

16 posted on 03/14/2018 5:32:01 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: tbw2

At the Socialist Globalist conference SXSW in Austin this week, Youtube has said that they will partner with Wikipedia to dispel “conspiracy theories” that they don’t agree with.

Want to be that they do not apply that “truferism” rule to “Russia Russia Russia” 2016 election tales?


17 posted on 03/14/2018 5:33:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn thvictims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: T Ruth

If it were erroneous, you should be able to request a hearing, content review, and get the status returned to all audiences.

But that isn’t happening, is it?


18 posted on 03/14/2018 5:34:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Wear an orange pin to mourn thvictims of the Tide Pods Challenge.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Liberals only check against liberal sources, so what they self-censor is flagged as not true or only partially true.
Then there’s the fact that they “check” conservatives thoroughly to find anything to list as fake while NOT fact checking provable lies by liberals.

Who’s Checking the Fact Checkers?
A new study sheds some light on what facts the press most likes to check.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/05/28/study-finds-fact-checkers-biased-against-republicans


19 posted on 03/14/2018 6:05:10 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: eyeamok

trusts and monopolies should be regulated and not allowed to stifle speech if they are “pubic monopolies.”


20 posted on 03/14/2018 6:11:10 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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