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Mueller invokes unusual ‘conspiracy to defraud government’ charge to ensnare more targets
Washington Times ^ | March 12, 2018 | Dan Boylan

Posted on 03/12/2018 3:51:12 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix

Mueller you’re not going to convince anyone with your idiotic conspiracy theories that ‘will get’ Trump. You see what is clear is that Hillary is a walking, spewing, non-indicted felon who belongs in jail. Give it up fool.


21 posted on 03/12/2018 4:13:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: gibsonguy

I had to re-read the article. I can’t believe they said that! How can they assert such a claim when everyone he hired is a Democrat/Clinton supporter?


22 posted on 03/12/2018 4:15:27 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: gibsonguy

I had to re-read the article. I can’t believe they said that! How can they assert such a claim when everyone he hired is a Democrat/Clinton supporter?


23 posted on 03/12/2018 4:15:28 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: PJ-Comix

“conspiracy to defraud the government” aka beating Hillary.


24 posted on 03/12/2018 4:15:38 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: PJ-Comix; All

Thin gruel indeed.

But it’ll be FUN watching Dims try to explain what the crime was lol

And it will be even more fun watching Conservatives make the case that darn near every US Citizen is guilty of the same thing.

“Martha and Bob took their new camper to Yosemite. They reserved the site 14 months ago. When they arrived, there had been a snowstorm and the park was thinly populated.

So they took the spot along the Merced River instead of the one they rented.

Martha and Bob conspired to defraud the US Government by deceiving the National Park Service, keeping them from properly allocating camp sites at Yosemite National Park”.


25 posted on 03/12/2018 4:16:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PJ-Comix

He/They will not rest until they take him/us down.
It is time to remove Mueller and ALL the rest of the traitors. Delay gets more dangerous day by day.

The Patriot Act gives the President the power to identify anyone as a threat and have him dealt with. He can start with Soros. Long overdue.


26 posted on 03/12/2018 4:17:53 PM PDT by Kalamata (Meat hooks for Tyrants)
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To: PJ-Comix

He better enjoy this, because that is it, no reputable firm would even consider this guy now.


27 posted on 03/12/2018 4:18:41 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: Mariner

But it’ll be FUN watching Dims try to explain what the crime was lol


Trump’s real crime was winning the election. Once you understand that, everything else makes sense.

So anyone who “helped” a Russian troll farm is somehow guilty. Probably including people who answered their poll questions. Good grief.


28 posted on 03/12/2018 4:23:22 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: SpaceBar

Or taking a long lunch.


29 posted on 03/12/2018 4:23:54 PM PDT by brianr10
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To: jjotto; PJ-Comix

“There is NOTHING unusual about “conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government” charges!”

There is when there is no underlying crime being charged.

The charge boils down to deceiving a Federal Government employee, even if the reason for, the object of the deceit does not constitute a crime.

Any employee of any agency. Not just Law Enforcement.

And prosecuted as a Federal Crime.

I’d say it’s unprecedented in the history of the US.


30 posted on 03/12/2018 4:24:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PJ-Comix

Mueller is a domestic enemy of the USA. He should be in Guantanamo.


31 posted on 03/12/2018 4:24:49 PM PDT by GreatRoad
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To: FatherofFive

Mueller better roll it up before he is charged with conspiracy to commit sedition...


32 posted on 03/12/2018 4:25:28 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: WilliamIII
The Dems aren’t the movers behind this witch hunt. The GOP establishment is.

Exactly!
33 posted on 03/12/2018 4:27:52 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: jjotto
IIRC, the "conspiracy to defraud the govt" in the indictment of 13 Russians and the troll-bot farm was a throwaway part of the political propaganda masquerading as an indictment.

The first count is a pure conspiracy count, with NO underlying crime. None of the activity described is criminal, per se. The perps participated in 1st amendment activities.

The DEMS are now demanding the US work harder to extradite these perps, including involving INTERPOL.

After Putin Cites Jews, Democrats Implore Trump to Extradite Russians - NYT - March 12, 2018

Top Democratic leaders in the House and Senate implored President Trump on Monday to employ "all resources available" to extradite 13 Russians charged last month with subverting the 2016 presidential election after Russia's president raised the possibility of Jewish involvement. ...

The Democratic letter outlines several steps that the Justice and State departments could take to try to force their extradition, such as pressing Interpol to issue what is effectively an international arrest warrant and using existing diplomatic channels, including raising the issue directly with Mr. Putin.

I'd love to see Mueller forced to prosecute under this indictment. All he really has is FARA and FEC violations; and those are on the minuscule end of the spectrum.

34 posted on 03/12/2018 4:28:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Hotlanta Mike

That’d be: “Seditious Conspiracy” to you, sir:)


35 posted on 03/12/2018 4:28:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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No underlying crime? Every Mueller indictment I’ve seen starts with other charges and throws in the defraud as an afterthought.

In fed cases I’ve seen, sometimes a defendant pleads down to only the defraud charge, but that’s to avoid more complicated convictions.

(I used to do legal research)


36 posted on 03/12/2018 4:29:58 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Really?

You think these are righteous charges warranted by the underlying “crime”?

Bizarre.


37 posted on 03/12/2018 4:31:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: PJ-Comix
I don't know where Obozo was born, but I'm damn sure that "birth certificate" is a flat-out forgery.

If that isn't "conspiracy to defraud the United States," I don't know what is!

38 posted on 03/12/2018 4:33:38 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Democrats: the political party of the undead)
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To: Cboldt
...All he really has is FARA and FEC violations...

That's what it looks like to me too. Maybe some tax law violations. It's essentially a PR bluff.

39 posted on 03/12/2018 4:34:58 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: PJ-Comix
Youtuber completely destroys Mueller's "Russian troll indictments."

LANGUAGE WARNING - Loads of F-bombs and other cursing.

It's an awesome dissection in spite of the language.

The Mueller Indictments Are A F**king Joke & It's Dangerous [Web Exclusive] (15:09)

The bottom line is this company in Russia is a click-bait farm. They had no interest in interfering with our election or creating any chaos here.
It exists to make money by selling the cyber equivalent of client lists.

40 posted on 03/12/2018 4:35:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (13 Russian Facebook trolls ... and a Siberian partridge in a Russian Olive tree.)
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