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Meet the Press Panel Freaks: Incompetent Trump Handing NoKo a Victory
Newsbusters.org ^ | March 11, 2018 | Nicholas Fondacaro

Posted on 03/11/2018 6:49:44 PM PDT by Kaslin

When it was first announced last Thursday that President Trump was to personally meet with North Korea Dictator Kim Jong-un for negotiations, the media’s response varied from optimistic to seething anger. But with some time, it appears as though their consensus is now to denounce the idea as was blatantly obvious on Sunday’s Meet the Press. The entire panel up in arms and fretting that Trump was either going to hand North Korea a victory or blow a gasket at the meeting and start a war.

Moderator Chuck Todd, still bitter because Trump called him a “sleeping son of a b*tch” at a rally the day before, kicked off the discussion with a ridiculously loaded question. “How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans,” he wondered acting baffled.

NBC’s Andrea Mitchell was aghast at the idea as she was visibly distraught and seemingly hyperventilating. “It's hard to imagine how it doesn't,” she declared. “First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.

For all Mitchell’s rambling about a meeting with Trump “legitimatizing” North Korea, where was that complaint when her network was praising their performance and propaganda at the Olympics? An argument can also be made that Kim’s nuclear weapons program, which reportedly can reach Washington, DC, was a form of legitimacy. Add to that, the U.S. was expending the resources to lead an international effort to isolate the communist country.

Meet the Press Panel Freaks: Incompetent Trump Handing NoKo Victory

 

It’s also highly hypocritical for Mitchell to whine about someone giving legitimacy to dictators when she’s made a career for herself doing just that. As the Media Research Center had previously documented, she was quite fond of Cuba’s former totalitarian Fidel Castro and was an adamant defender of the Iran nuclear deal and stuck up for them as she opposed Trump.

Yet that didn’t stop Mitchell from spouting off and claiming the administration was ignorant of the issues. “The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, ‘denuclearization,’ our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap,” she asserted. She also suggested that what the Trump administration was willing to do was leave our South Korean and Japanese allies high and dry in the region.

Yahoo! News columnist Matt Bai chimed in and wanted to let the panel know he had a serious problem with Trump talking to a dictator: the President’s love for such leaders. According to him:

Except, the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.

Mitchell jumped in again to fret about Trump being so unstable he would lose his temper at the meeting. “But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options,” she opined.

Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part,” added Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan.

The idea that they would turn down possible peace on the Korean Peninsula just because they detested Trump was absolutely mind-boggling.

NBC Meet the Press March 11, 2018 10:57:01 AM Eastern

(…)

CHUCK TODD: How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans?

ANDREA MITCHELL: It's hard to imagine how it doesn't. First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.

It is not prepared. There was no letter, despite leaks there was. We do not yet know what he is really offering. The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, “denuclearization,” our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap! The Korean peninsula means we eliminate our nuclear umbrella from our allies. What we want is for him to give up his illegal weapons, not for us to give up our nuclear security umbrella for South Korea and Japan. This just shows you the lack of, shall we say, competence or familiarity with these details. They do not have a south -- a North/South Korean expert. They don't have an ambassador. Their top expert just quit in frustration, I am told, because he could not -- Tillerson would not take him to White House meetings. There's no one in the house who knows this issue.

(…)

EUGENE ROBINSON: What I think is riskier, though, is to have Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un hurling insults and threats at each other.

[Crosstalk]

And to have a U.S. administration talking about the absurd, catastrophic idea of giving a bloody nose to North Korea, some sort of limited strike, that could immediately mushroom into a local Armageddon, basically. So I think, great, if they want to sit down and talk, that's better than this alternative, which is where we seem to be drifting.

(…)

MATT BAI: Except the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.

[Crosstalk}

MITCHELL: One quick point is, he wants results. If he would go into a meeting – and I don't think it's a great idea at the front end. If he would go in saying how our experts will work and do -- this is a get to know you. But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options.

PEGGY NOONAN: Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part.

(…)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: andreamitchell; asia; broadcasttv; chucktodd; conspracytheories; cyperalerts; doublestandards; foreignpolicy; japan; kimjongun; korea; mattbai; media; mediawingofthednc; meetthedepressed; meetthepress; msm; nbc; nknukes; noonan; northkorea; partisanmediashills; peggynoonan; presidenttrump; presstitutes; sleepysonofabitch; southkorea; trumpasia; video
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To: Kaslin
"Incompetent Trump Handing NoKo a Victory"

Define Incompetent:

- jimmy carter
- bill clinton
- barack obama
- All of the above

61 posted on 03/11/2018 9:04:53 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Kaslin

Panel members...

http://screencrush.com/442/files/2012/09/dumb-and-dumber-2.jpg


62 posted on 03/11/2018 9:05:45 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

We could use spies in many situations.


63 posted on 03/11/2018 9:08:17 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: txrefugee

“That meeting of Sec. Albright got off to a rocky start when the North Koreans thought she was the cleaning lady.”

Yeah she convinced them she wasn’t the cleaning lady ... but they still took her to the cleaners. (drum roll)


64 posted on 03/11/2018 9:13:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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Do these IDIOTS know TRUMP is a tough as nails negotiator?
65 posted on 03/11/2018 9:35:40 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: Kaslin
Why should the Left care if Trump comes out looking bad? I thought Lefties loved Communist dictators?
66 posted on 03/11/2018 10:16:05 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: SaveFerris
And then there are people that tune into Joy Behar because she is a “smart” person......

Demonstrating, clearly, the abject stupidity of that small portion of the public.

67 posted on 03/12/2018 12:32:15 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: Kaslin

They were upset when folks noted that Obama was doomed to failure as far as being a good President - they are now terrified that Trump is succeeding despite all their attempts to stop him - not even slowing him down if one discounts what McConnell has been doing.


68 posted on 03/12/2018 4:30:33 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Kaslin

Just more proof (as if we needed any) that the media and their Dem masters will oppose Trump on anything and everything. Doing complete 180’s if necessary.


69 posted on 03/12/2018 5:05:11 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kaslin

A good predictor of truth. You can pretty much count on the opposite of what they say.


70 posted on 03/12/2018 6:44:21 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables
If the president was HRC, Hussein or even GWB, I'd be skeptical and defeatist about this meeting as well.

But DJT is the "trump card."

I'm confident he won't allow this to be a win for the Norks.

71 posted on 03/12/2018 6:58:01 AM PDT by daler
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To: Louis Foxwell

Apparently a significant part of the population - enough to support The View and Oprah Winfrey.

And they follow them on Obama and Hillary. Incredible.


72 posted on 03/12/2018 11:00:24 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Kaslin
It's too soon to know if anything will come of this, but assume that some kind of deal is made which denuclearizes the Korean peninsula and makes another war less likely.

That would call for a Nobel Peace Prize, but who would get it, other than Kim?

The South Korean President? The US Secretary of State?

Or would Kim alone get it?

Obviously Trump would not be allowed to share it.

73 posted on 03/12/2018 4:39:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin
Wow. Five snowflakes who altogether have never accomplished a damn thing but exhale hot air, now agree that they know more about NK policy and deal making than Trump, who has been getting consultation from a great set of foreign policy experts including generals, and daily intel briefings from CIA Chief Pompeo, for a year now.

LIke I’m sure Peggy Noonan knows so much more than all of them about how NK goes boom.

Sheesh.

74 posted on 03/12/2018 9:00:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: haircutter
Noonan was a speechwriter for President Reagan, and she wrote a pretty good speech. She wrote the speech about “the boys of Pointe du Hoc” he gave on a windy D-Day celebration on the cliffs of France. But she never got over his leaving the White House, and her. She has been a mess ever since, and no she doesn’t know squat about foreign policy.
75 posted on 03/12/2018 9:05:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sparklite2
Many observers who think themselves canny have made fools of themselves applying 20th century rules and conventional wisdom to Donald Trump.

This development with NK is an example of a train of events, most of them covert, which defy inside-the-box analysis.

76 posted on 03/12/2018 9:09:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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