Posted on 03/11/2018 6:49:44 PM PDT by Kaslin
When it was first announced last Thursday that President Trump was to personally meet with North Korea Dictator Kim Jong-un for negotiations, the media’s response varied from optimistic to seething anger. But with some time, it appears as though their consensus is now to denounce the idea as was blatantly obvious on Sunday’s Meet the Press. The entire panel up in arms and fretting that Trump was either going to hand North Korea a victory or blow a gasket at the meeting and start a war.
Moderator Chuck Todd, still bitter because Trump called him a “sleeping son of a b*tch” at a rally the day before, kicked off the discussion with a ridiculously loaded question. “How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans,” he wondered acting baffled.
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell was aghast at the idea as she was visibly distraught and seemingly hyperventilating. “It's hard to imagine how it doesn't,” she declared. “First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.”
For all Mitchell’s rambling about a meeting with Trump “legitimatizing” North Korea, where was that complaint when her network was praising their performance and propaganda at the Olympics? An argument can also be made that Kim’s nuclear weapons program, which reportedly can reach Washington, DC, was a form of legitimacy. Add to that, the U.S. was expending the resources to lead an international effort to isolate the communist country.
Meet the Press Panel Freaks: Incompetent Trump Handing NoKo Victory
It’s also highly hypocritical for Mitchell to whine about someone giving legitimacy to dictators when she’s made a career for herself doing just that. As the Media Research Center had previously documented, she was quite fond of Cuba’s former totalitarian Fidel Castro and was an adamant defender of the Iran nuclear deal and stuck up for them as she opposed Trump.
Yet that didn’t stop Mitchell from spouting off and claiming the administration was ignorant of the issues. “The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, ‘denuclearization,’ our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap,” she asserted. She also suggested that what the Trump administration was willing to do was leave our South Korean and Japanese allies high and dry in the region.
Yahoo! News columnist Matt Bai chimed in and wanted to let the panel know he had a serious problem with Trump talking to a dictator: the President’s love for such leaders. According to him:
Except, the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.
Mitchell jumped in again to fret about Trump being so unstable he would lose his temper at the meeting. “But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options,” she opined.
“Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part,” added Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan.
The idea that they would turn down possible peace on the Korean Peninsula just because they detested Trump was absolutely mind-boggling.
NBC Meet the Press March 11, 2018 10:57:01 AM Eastern
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CHUCK TODD: How does any meeting between Trump and Kim not turn into a victory for the North Koreans?
ANDREA MITCHELL: It's hard to imagine how it doesn't. First of all, they have had a victory by setting the terms and by having the meeting itself, as you were pointing out. This is what all North Korean leaders have wanted. Three generations have wanted a meeting, legitimacy from an American president.
It is not prepared. There was no letter, despite leaks there was. We do not yet know what he is really offering. The treasury secretary with you repeated the phrase, “denuclearization,” our objective is denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. That is a trap! The Korean peninsula means we eliminate our nuclear umbrella from our allies. What we want is for him to give up his illegal weapons, not for us to give up our nuclear security umbrella for South Korea and Japan. This just shows you the lack of, shall we say, competence or familiarity with these details. They do not have a south -- a North/South Korean expert. They don't have an ambassador. Their top expert just quit in frustration, I am told, because he could not -- Tillerson would not take him to White House meetings. There's no one in the house who knows this issue.
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EUGENE ROBINSON: What I think is riskier, though, is to have Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un hurling insults and threats at each other.
[Crosstalk]
And to have a U.S. administration talking about the absurd, catastrophic idea of giving a bloody nose to North Korea, some sort of limited strike, that could immediately mushroom into a local Armageddon, basically. So I think, great, if they want to sit down and talk, that's better than this alternative, which is where we seem to be drifting.
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MATT BAI: Except the problem I have, Gene, is that he has at every turn shown a really unsettling appreciation for or at least lack of antipathy toward tyranny and autocracy. If you are going to sit down with tyrants and autocrats, you have to have, I think, as a president, one would think it's a given to have a deep-felt conviction about the supremacy of democracy and I don’t hear that from him.
[Crosstalk}
MITCHELL: One quick point is, he wants results. If he would go into a meeting – and I don't think it's a great idea at the front end. If he would go in saying how our experts will work and do -- this is a get to know you. But he wants results and he will be impatient. And what is the downside if he gets angry at what he experiences? Then it escalates because you have no other options.
PEGGY NOONAN: Then you don't have diplomacy to go to because you have exhausted your diplomacy. Then things go boom. That's the scary part.
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She is soon 68...been divorced almost 30 years...has became a bit strange..She is a head shaker like Liz Warren..flopping her hair from side to side, playing pretty ladies..they make me lol...
And then there are people that tune into Joy Behar because she is a “smart” person......
Why would you not have the option of
diplomacy any longer just because you tried diplomacy? But you would you still have the option by refusing to engage in diplomacy? They also ignore that Kim made concessions along with asking for this meeting.
The same people who think hillary is the smartest woman in the world.
On FReeper said it quite well:
“Barack Obama: A stupid person’s idea of a ‘smart person’.”
I am sure that Trump will take their comments today as further sign that they are what he described.
These people would rather see America destroyed than Trump succeed. Their sickness is no longer a laughing matter.
Phat Boi Norker Kim could have nuked Hawaii and tipped it over and the a-hole leftist media would still blame the President.
It’s a wash, as I have said here several times.
It was a practice of the USSR to demand pre-conditions in order to have a meeting at all, insinuating that the West wanted meetings more that Russia did, and the West was willing to pay for it. North Korea has eschewed this attitude. One point for us.
North Korea has tried unsuccessfully for the last fifty years to get a one on one negotiation with the US but this ‘prestige’ was not bestowed by any US administration, ever. NK got it this time without surrendering up anything but a possible delay in doing what they want to do. One point for NK.
So, it’s a wash thus far. A hidden advantage for the US is that Trump is the only occupant in the White House there has even been with the demonstrated ability to pull this off. It will be interesting to watch.
Yes and keep in mind the liberal “solution” was to just accept NK’s nuclear capability, including the ability to hit us with ICBM’s. So they wouldn’t have attempted anything.
100%
The MSM doesn’t even know what makes up Trump’s base. Trump’s base has a lot of veterans and military people. The last thing they want is war unless there is no alternative because they know what war is.
I think Trump’s base are hopeful that maybe - just maybe - some straight talk from Trump direct to Kim might knock some sense into him. I doubt it but the US has to be seen as doing everything possible to avoid war while still managing NK as grown-ups.
I don’t think Trump wants to go to war either. He has too many other fish to fry.
“””””Phat Boi Norker Kim could have nuked Hawaii and tipped it over and the a-hole leftist media would still blame the President.”””””””””
As the low iq gal said...If North Korea nukes us Trump will probably get us into a war.
The huge differences which exist now are: 1 NK soon can hit us with nuclear ICBM’s and 2 Trump is getting ready to hit them first. Both sides face a new urgency.
Just wait until he solves the Iran problem before Summer is over.
Thanks Kaslin.
One week they are codeling North Korea and the next the media is screaming don’t elevate NK.
It certainly concentrates the mind.
...coming from those who have had their bloodied asses handed to them over and over again.
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