Posted on 03/11/2018 6:06:14 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Broward County sheriff offers 'fact check;' union demands actual facts.
PARKLAND, Fla. - While public outrage might be centered on Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel for the agency's apparent failures regarding the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, deputies are also paying the price.
Broward sheriff's Deputy Jeff Bell said his fellow deputies are hearing it all too often these days, being called cowards....snip
"It's the deputies that are out on the street taking the beating," said Bell, who serves as the president of the IUPA union, which represents the rank and filed at BSO. "It's the individual deputy that is getting the comments of being called a coward and,
'Oh, you're working for the Coward County Sheriff's Office.' Those are confirmed reports."
Bell said he doesn't see that stopping until Israel stops putting out spin about the shooting and puts out the facts.
"We want total transparency," he said. "That is our position on this. Come forward with all the facts."
Bell on Wednesday was reacting in part to Tuesday's posting by the sheriff of the website bsofactcheck.org, in which BSO defends its actions, even as it continues to withhold crucial information about the shooting.
"Releasing little tidbits of information without anything to back up those points -- the only thing is does is create more speculation out there," Bell said. "You can't pick what you want to release."
Israel so far has refused to release the agency's Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) notes from the shooting, as well as the radio transmissions and the outside surveillance video that would show the public exactly what happened during the agency's response.
"The citizens have a right to know," Bell said. "For the family members of the victims -- they have a right to know."
What is known is that the school deputy on duty during the shooting, Scot Peterson, took cover outside the building for four minutes while the shooter was firing on students and school staff, failing to enter the building.
Israel is also not disputing Coral Springs officials, who have said several other deputies failed to go into the building before Coral Springs police officers arrived. Policy for BSO and agencies across the U.S. during school shootings is to immediately go into the building to take out the threat.
It's also confirmed that BSO's commander in Parkland, Capt. Jan Jordan, spoke in her first radio transmission of creating a perimeter, which also appears to run counter to policy.
While an incomplete leaked version of the dispatch notes obtained by Fox News indicates Jordan said "need perimeter," the BSO Fact Check website claims Jordan "asked if a perimeter had been established."
The website author then opines that a perimeter order would "be appropriate to apprehend the subject, stop him from entering the neighboring middle school and prevent non-first responders (responding parents) from coming on the school property."
What the site doesn't mention is that, according to the leaked dispatch notes, Jordan's order appears to have come at 2:32 p.m., when the shooting had stopped. But deputies didn't know the location of the shooter, and it was believed he still might be inside the school, where many victims remained bleeding.
Bell said that if at that time of the Jordan radio transmission there was a sufficient number of cops inside the school, it might be appropriate to call for a perimeter. But if not, talk of the perimeter would have been improper.
He said the unanswered questions are exactly why BSO must release all of the dispatch information, instead of its own defenses. He also said a full release by Israel would clear up a key question: Did deputies fail to enter the school because of an order?
"If they were given an order to take a perimeter point, I really can't blame them," he said. "That's why we're asking for transparency. Did they follow an order or was it not an order? We don't know yet."
Ironically, the website tries to refute a claim that "The Broward Sheriff's Office is not forthcoming with information related to the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School," claiming that "once all the facts are gathered and the investigation is completed, we will publicize the findings." Then it issued a bit of warning to the public: "We would like to caution everyone regarding the dissemination of information that has not been verified."
Bell said the union has considered a no-confidence vote on Israel, but he said a decision on that matter will be made only after all the information is released.
The union IS considering a no-confidence vote on Israel!
How many children were taken, raped, and killed
for their organs, Sheriff?
How many did felons did you help, Sheriff?
How many children were taken as Moslem slaves
by your colleagues, Sheriff?
I listened to the audio of Jordan; she kept repeating about the perimeter and sounded as if she were probably panicking and reading from an instruction sheet. Totally worthless.
Delay.
Deny.
Obfuscate.
Cover your ass.
Cover your ass.
cover your ass.
COVERYOURASSCOVERYOURASS!!!
At this point, if video came out of the cops using students as human shields and then running off to write parking tickets on responding parents, I wouldn’t be surprised. Anybody still trust government? The Sheriff, the school resource officer and the FBI officials who decided not to investigate this kid should all be hung in the public square at noon.
Actually, it's all law abiding citizens of Florida who are taking a hit over this especially NRA members. So, welcome to the club.
Just Say No To Rick Scott For Senate!
“Bell said the union has considered a no-confidence vote on Israel, but he said a decision on that matter will be made only after all the information is released.”
Here’s a basic concept for Union Deputy Bell: Making your own action depend on an action by someone who doesn’t want you to act, lets them control the situation. Bell’s position gives the Sheriff an additional incentive NOT to release all the information.
Does the union really want him to release all info? I doubt it, since full info will show union participation in the Dream Scheme that left Cruz armed and on the loose, as well as explain all those calls where nothing was done.
Much more fun to pretend that the Union would do something, if only the Sheriff would let them. Sort of like the classic coward routine of having friends hold you back from fighting (maybe that analogy hits close to home in Broward...).
Rut-Roh! Rat fight!
I’m thinking if the deputies had children in that school they would’ve disobeyed the order. How do they look those parents in the eye, if they were “just following orders”?
Yeah, once they can figure out a way to put a positive spin on the details.
It's not just the sheriff that needs to go, 0bamas school superintendent needs to go to.
PLUS the change in policy that quit arresting kids at school or referring for mental health holds. The murder’s councillor’s notes show he was erratic and had violent tendencies even at 15. Never got the help or lock down he needed
Indeed, they will. He is also fighting not to release the video surveillance.
They have likely lost a great deal of respect in the community and that will continue for several years unless they get rid of Scott Israel.
Supr. Ralph Runcie just got a big raise in his contract renewal through 2023.
Well, I'd say new information has recently come to light about his level of job performance.
So you’re a lawyer.
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