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Broward sheriff's captain who gave initial order to 'stage' not enter Stoneman Douglas is ID'd
Fox News ^ | March 5, 2018 | Matt Finn

Posted on 03/06/2018 6:16:21 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

The Broward County Sheriff’s Office has identified to Fox News the captain who, according to sources, directed responding deputies and units to “stage” or form a “perimeter” outside Stoneman Douglas High School, instead of rushing immediately into the building, as the mass shooting unfolded there.

Multiple law enforcement and official sources said the commands in the initial moments after Nikolas Cruz allegedly opened fire would go against all training which instructs first responders to “go, go, go” until the shooter is neutralized. As law enforcement arrived, the shooter’s identity and exact location were still unknown.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: browardcounty; diversity; donutwatch; floriduh; leo; nikolascruz; standdownorder; toservepaperwork
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To: ilovesarah2012

Fox is late on this news


61 posted on 03/06/2018 7:48:58 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: chris37

http://www.ashevillenc.gov/departments/police/office/default.htm


62 posted on 03/06/2018 7:49:11 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Paladin2
Besides, what was it’s training and RoE as issued from above?


63 posted on 03/06/2018 7:49:19 AM PST by kabar
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
How can you reasonable expect a cop to run towards danger, especially if the perp has an Assault Rifle 15 - fully automatic - with a 200 round clip?

You can expect a cop to run towards danger and use all available opportunities to avoid detection and try to slip up on the perpetrator unnoticed and take him out.

Why do so many act like the cop should almost challenge the shooter to a shootout at 100 paces? A school building would have offered many ways for a cop to move in undetected on a shooter occupied with hunting down victims.

64 posted on 03/06/2018 7:50:07 AM PST by Will88
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To: ilovesarah2012

Fox...leading from behind ? Miami Herald had this 03/01/2018.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article203015289.html


65 posted on 03/06/2018 7:52:10 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: thoughtomator; Will88; elpadre; logi_cal869; Gunner TLW; Delta 21; Uncle Miltie; OKSooner

The “15” in AR-15 means you can kill 15 people with a single burst of gunfire.


66 posted on 03/06/2018 7:53:06 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: kabar

Then somebody needs to be cashiered.


67 posted on 03/06/2018 7:56:16 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Provide a link that verifies that the AR15 is a “fully automatic” rifle.


68 posted on 03/06/2018 8:02:31 AM PST by Will88
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To: ilovesarah2012

FTA: “Dispatch logs obtained by Fox News appeared to show that at 2:32 p.m., roughly 11 minutes after Cruz opened fire, the first command to form a perimeter was issued, “17S1... NEED PERIMETER.”

“When seconds count the police are only minutes away.”


69 posted on 03/06/2018 8:11:22 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Conservatives seek the truth. Democrats seek the power to dictate what truth is.)
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To: sipow
This is why some jobs were meant for men.

Bull crap, my wife, mother of my _children_, would not only have ordered them inside, to save those kids, she would have driven down herself to lead the charge.

70 posted on 03/06/2018 8:19:27 AM PST by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: chris37

I have been told there are so many because they enjoy arresting women.


71 posted on 03/06/2018 8:20:25 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Will88

The AR-15 must be fully automatic. One look at that scary black coating and all the plastic thingies that can be attached to it can cause flaming gun grabbers to say fully stupid things automatically.


72 posted on 03/06/2018 8:22:10 AM PST by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Come on Man! You are just fishing for outrage! There is no way that you can be serious or that misinformed about firearms. Give it up!


73 posted on 03/06/2018 9:13:15 AM PST by Gunner TLW
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To: ilovesarah2012

One of the characteristics that social warriors claim for women is that they are more likely to seek accommodation and compromise or consensus than males.

That may be a very useful characteristic in politics and government or business, but might not be a good characteristic in a crisis with violence such as a police action or military battlefield.

Does that sound misogynistic? Simply my opinion based on what I have learned over the years about the differences between women and men that are often espoused in promtion of women and women’s rights.


74 posted on 03/06/2018 9:25:20 AM PST by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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To: Will88

AR = Assault Rifle = Fully Auto


75 posted on 03/06/2018 9:27:25 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I haven't read a timeline of events.

When did Cruz start shooting, who called 9-11 first, and when, at what time in this timeline, did armed officers arrive at the scene?

If they set up a perimeter without at least some going in first, and Cruz continued firing for let's say 10 minutes....that's pretty bad.

76 posted on 03/06/2018 9:33:09 AM PST by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

I see what you did there


77 posted on 03/06/2018 9:53:14 AM PST by democratsaremyenemy (Streepisacreep)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
AR = Assault Rifle = Fully Auto

Why are you posting complete nonsense?

AR stands for Armalite Rifle, and the 15 is a model number. And it is not a fully automatic rifle.

AR 15

And, of course, you've provided no links to support the nonsense you've posted here.

78 posted on 03/06/2018 9:54:33 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

OK, you finally got me!


79 posted on 03/06/2018 9:55:26 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (A bad peace is better than a good war.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

ROPE time......


80 posted on 03/06/2018 10:00:10 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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