HOW DUMB IS HE?
Posted on 02/26/2018 1:56:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Constitutionally Bad Idea.....Chief
Bump stocks are worthless anyway.I can do the same thing with more accuracy with a rubber band .HOWEVER,if he presses the 21 age limit to purchase a rifle he will LOSE a second term.I would bet a ton Pennsylvania will say fk u if he does!
My, how Obama of you.
Ammo waster indeed. I’m more of a “point fire” believer myself, e.g. take careful aim and take out the target with one shot.
If he does conjure up a legal angle to ban bump stocks, will such a ban be enough to calm the fury of the Romans screaming for blood?
Waiting for the numerous district attorneys to sue to block the xo as they have with the Immigration xo’s.
I won’t hold my breath because we know what “freedom” means on this country today.
How will you treat a bump stock as a machine gun without a serial number?
They’re a fun toy. Don’t try to take mine.
if he does that, we will never vote or support him again
i don’t give a damn about bump stocks, we don’t use them and never plan to
but they are a legal commodity and no president has any right to ban them
this is nothing more than tin pot dictatorship kinda thinking and if we wanted that we could have voted for HilLIARy
cripes...would this put gatling guns in jeopardy ? or pants belt loops ? or rubber bands ?
a few ways to kill an EO. It won’t happen with the bump stock.
We are in a fight for our country and if things go poorly in the 2018 election cycle it's all over for this country.
A bump fire stock ban is the only form of gun control option I can think of at the moment that does not undermine the Second Amendment and it de fuses the Democrat game playing on gun control and gets us through the 2018 election cycle.
Mass casualty shooters are usually living a self created fantasy world and operating in a psychologically disassociated state. The perceived power of the high rate of fire contributed by the bump stocks can reinforce the fantasy and provide the shooter with heightened sense of power and control.
This can be enough to move the shooters fantasy out of the fantasy realm into reality and action of a real world murder spree.
As practical shooting goes, bump stocks only have one real world Tactical application - increasing the cyclic rate of a semi auto rifle to maximize a body count when fired indiscriminately into crowd of people where accuracy and controlled fire are not needed for hit probability.
what if a crowd of bad guys is coming at you?
One thing that I really like about Free Republic is the amazing incisiveness and the vast quantity of thoughtful and informed analysis and information about a multiplicity of subjects. However, I am EXTREMELY disappointed about much of what has been said of the the bumpfire stock controversy. Much of it sounds has though it was promulgated by the ignorant gun grabbing left.
I am a 2 tour Vietnam infantry and armor combat veteran, and a member of the Illinois National guard for 26 years. I served in a NG Military police battalion has a platoon sergeant and an operations sergeant. I was a certified Illinois State Police Firearms and Defensive tactics instructor, and a member of Special Reaction and SWAT teams. I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds through automatic weapons of all types, belt and magazine fed, tripod and shoulder mounted, ranging from .45 caliber M-3 sub machine guns up to M2A1 40 mm twin anti-aircraft guns mounted on an M-42 self propelled anti-aircraft gun.
I am retired and spend one day a month on the rifle range shooting my AR-15 rifles. When this slide fire device was first introduced, the low cost and novelty intrigued me and I purchased one. It was a bit awkward to use at first, but in one afternoon, after a bit of practice I was able to get 90% of any length burst on a man sized target at 50 yards, which is close to the normal engagement ranges for truly effective full auto fire from shoulder mounted weapons. It is not as useful has a true selective fire assault rifle since it requires two hands to employ, but it DOES have some measure of limited tactical utility for anyone who practices with it. I never really considered this item to be a true tactical instrument, but I did appreciate the ingenuity and thought that went into turning “bump fire’ into almost as accurate a technique has I could use with a true select fire assault rifle.
Experts who have decried the effectiveness of full auto fire from assault rifles and other shoulder fired weapons are largely correct. I was constantly yelling at my squad to use the “auto” location for the selector switch sparingly. Semi-auto fire is usually most desired and superior, and includes the advantages of duration of sustained fire to prevent barrel overheating and enhances ammo expenditure and accuracy. Auto fire from an assault rifle has the following tactical utility, in the final and close in (100 meters or less) stages of an assault, to gain initial fire superiority, to break contact, particularly has a counter ambush technique, when firing along final protective lines when a perimeter is in danger of being overrun, and to support by fire the maneuver tactics of another element. Leaders should be responsible to control the fire of their subordinates to maintain fire discipline, but in those roles that I have outlined, full auto fire is very useful indeed, even if it is simulated auto fire delivered from a bumpstock.
The battle has been joined. The anti-gun hysterics are in full cry. They will never be satisfied until they achieve near total firearm confiscation. The genie is out of the bottle. You cannot stop psychopaths employing bump fire methods unless you can repeal the laws of Newtonian physics. I realize that some sort of regulation will ensue in the wake of this horrific atrocity. But I don’t like it one damn bit.
If they do enact this ban, then any so called “compromise” by repealing the 1986 Hughes Act which caused the prices of full auto weapons to skyrocket by making it impossible to register newly manufactured NFA firearms. There is NO REASON for a legally transferable M-16 to cost over 50,000 dollars. You can be assured that any such owner will be thoroughly vetted by the background check that would be required to purchase one.
Surely You aren’t implying that he may have New York values? Not allowed on this site.
Actually, Hogg doesn't need to go back to school, now or ever. He already knows everything there is to know!
Trump is just ABN (always be negotiating). Plus, he's a master of misdirection, and grabbing the momentum, leaving his opponents chasing his tail.
This is not good.
“3. Most folks do not have a serious issue with the ban “except” for the slippery slope argument.”
The problem is acceding to the idea that an inanimate object is a problem. Plus I don’t want to give democrats/rinos ANYTHING!
No ya won’t Prez, we know the law. Stop talking New York talk, the people that voted for ya don’t roll that way.
How’s that wall comin?
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