Posted on 02/22/2018 8:25:56 PM PST by conservative98
The sheriff’s deputy who failed to engage the shooter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School “believed he did a good job” because he called in the location of the massacre and gave a description of the shooter, a top union official said Thursday.
School resource officer Scot Peterson, who resigned in disgrace from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office, was “distraught” about shooting that killed 17 people — but believed he did his duty, according to the president of the Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association.
“He believed he did a good job calling in the location, setting up the perimeter and calling in the description (of Cruz),” said the union official, Jim Bell.
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As usual, lol.
Not at all, that’s where the BS originated.
You don’t know that at all.
You have determined that he was there, and so he must have had a chance to end this. That is a leap of logic that none of us can make.
Once again, this officer is not required to commit suicide so some folks who haven’t a clue can be happy.
Police departments would send out only one guy, if one guy was all it took.
You know that, and I know that.
The thing is D1, I know I would have gone in, even with the unknowns.
That may sound like “Keyboard Commando” talk to you, but I could not stand by, armed, even if I knew he had more bullets and more powerful weapons, while kids were being killed. I would have to at least try. I know by charging at most people shooting in this situation that just the act of charging at them and shooting at them will greatly disconcert the shooter. Even if it did not, I would have to fall back on the idea that you confront evil, you don’t let it flourish.
Its better to die a brave death than to live a cowards life.
Yep and that let’s everyone ignore all those people who saw the “red flags” off the hook.
I agree. And while they definitely could have stopped this at many points along the way, the fact is this guy would have had a very difficult time ending it by himself.
Whole departments of people failed on this.
You mentioned the FBI and the former foster parents. And what about the placement agency that failed to mention what a problem this guy was to the new parents?
Good grief, talk about a law-suit waiting to happen.
Unfortunately, it WOULD NOT be only our life you would be putting on the line. Any children in the hallway, the nearby rooms, upstairs, downstairs, or even outside could have been hit while he shot at you.
Okay, you try to distract the shooter. That shooter tries to hit you, but three other kids are killed in the cross-fire between you and him.
Is that also a risk you want to take?
Their grand police department didn’t even bother to make sure this guy was taken care off the 30 times they were called out on him.
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Spot on. The Sheriff deeds to be replaced.
Someone sure does.
This guy was a flaming time bomb and everyone ignored him.
There are probably ten different entities that failed their mandate on this.
Many of these very agencies and people are required by law to report dangerous behavior threatening children.
Who did? N O B O D Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoK1OAmDs2E&t=65s
Above is a link to a video of a shooting at my son’s college. The shooter used a shotgun - and thank goodness loaded with birdshot. The gal shot in the video got a direct hit - but luckily to her body, and she walked away. A boy was killed just outside the building (not just wounded like they say in the video). The gunman put the barrel right at the base of the back of his head. Several others were wounded and were treated and released.
The hero - Jon Meis was a hall monitor, and carried “illegal” pepper spray which is illegal on campus. Although that never gets brought up! Sprays the gunman, disarms him of the gun, and then wrestles and subdues him as the gunman grabs a knife.
On his facebook page at the time, Meis followed various weapon and gear companies, martial art sites, and.....My Little Pony! (He was/is a “Brony”!)
Then your post makes no sense. You saw this already with Columbine as it was filmed in real time.
“What really pisses me off is the kids who escaped being shot and dealing with the terror, but then having to join a f’ing human centipede chain to get out of the area, with their hands on the shoulders of those before them. I watched far to much footage of Nazi doing the same to the Jews. Is this conditioning for when it comes time to run to the ditch?”
It has nothing to do with the Nazi’s and everything to do with our current handling of school security protocol. Columbine in 1999 had the students in a human chain while escaping the school.Nothing to do with Nazi’s and the holocaust.
It didn’t originate there, either.
If a shooter is free, loose, and not confronted there is a higher risk of more death than if you engage. Depends on where the potential victims are in relationship to the shooter. If there are people in the cross fire, then you don’t engage. That’s part of firearms training.
Other posters mentioned some things I want to add here.
First I’ll mention that local police departments would send out as many officers as they could break away to this crime scene. If it’s a small area, they would pull in officers from nearly departments, possibly the local police and sheriff’s department officers.
If one guy could handle this type of situation, local agencies would only send out one officer on these calls.
There is also the issue of additional gunfire if the shooter gets into a firefight with this officer. If the security officer bursts into a room, he’ll likely face a firefight with students in the background. He could kill more students trying to save them.
Any shooting outside the room might kill other students in nearby room, above and below. Kids in the hall and even outside could be exposed.
This is not as easy a call as some would like to think it is.
Further, another poster mentioned the former foster parents and the FBI. I forgot them both. There’s the local D.A. who should have known this guy on a first name basis too.
There were plenty of departments and people who let these kids down, and frankly they let this security officer flap in the breeze on this also.
Now public officials are shooting their mouths off about the security person.
Who is in a position with clean hands down there?
N O B O D Y !
This guy has a long history in law enforcement. He didn’t just walk in off the street from Taco Bell, and get hired.
I don’t consider him a coward.
Just above here, my last post touches on a few more reasons why he may have done exactly what he should have.
Right, so you rush the room and then don’t have a clean shot.
Then what?
Well said, again! We all can be virtual commandos but being there in that situation is something none of us know how we’d react and how our reaction could affect others.
We shouldn’t be putting the blame on the people involved in the actual chaos. People do/react how they do whether we agree as we sit here not involved. It’s wonderful when there’s a hero, but sometimes there’s no hero.
"School officer stood outside for 4 minutes doing ‘nothing’ during massacre:
When asked by reporters to describe how the video made him feel, Sheriff Israel responded, “Sick to my stomach” and “devastated.”
“It doesn’t matter who went in first, it doesn’t matter in what order you went in,” he said. “What matters is that when we in law enforcement arrive at an active shooter, we go in and address the target and that’s what should have been done.”
“This Peterson fellow needs to just stop talking, period.”
This lee martell fellow needs to read the article!!!!!!!!!
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