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Trump open to tougher gun background checks after Florida rampage
The New York Post ^ | 02/19/18 | Mark Moore

Posted on 02/19/2018 7:00:18 AM PST by Simon Green

The White House signaled that President Trump would be open to bolstering gun background checks in the wake of a mass shooting at a Florida high school last week that rekindled the national debate about gun control.

The president spoke on Friday to Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn about a bill the Texas Republican introduced with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) that would “improve federal compliance with criminal background check legislation,” White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement on Monday.

“While discussions are ongoing and revisions are being considered, the president is supportive of efforts to improve the federal background check system,” she said.

Cornyn and Murphy were among a bipartisan group of lawmakers who supported the background check bill introduced in November after a church shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, that left 26 people dead.

It’s the first indication that Trump would back a measure to bolster background checks.

In the days after 17 people were gunned down at Marjory Stoneman Douglas HS in Parkland, Fla., last Wednesday, Trump blamed mental illness and called on “neighbors and classmates” to report erratic behavior.

The White House also said Trump will host a “listening session” this Wednesday with high school students and teachers, but didn’t confirm that Parkland teens will be part of the discussion.

A group of students who survived the rampage also announced that they will hold a “March for Our Lives” rally in Washington, D.C., on March 24 to highlight the need for gun control.

Trump spent the three-day Presidents Day weekend at his resort in Mar-a-Lago, which is about 40 miles north of the school shooting site, and surveyed members about gun control laws, The Washington Post reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: Cboldt
But, but, but HIPPA!!!

(A certain former occupier of the White House, who is and was doubtless a flourishing garden of STDs was all for medical privacy. I don't know why. He looks like he's lost a LOT of weight, I want to know what diet he's on...)

81 posted on 02/19/2018 7:46:55 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: ilgipper

Didn’t read the whole thing, did you? Or, is it reading comprehension you have a problem with?


82 posted on 02/19/2018 7:47:17 AM PST by FrankR (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: FrankR
How about 25 being the minimum age to purchase, and/or own, a gun. Along with that, a gun safety certification and a required number of hours in training.

NO! NO! NO!

Don't you hoplophobes get it? We are NOT going to put up with any more infringements! It's not the gun, it's this GODLESS SOCIETY!

You people like mass death? No? Then you better not pile on any more infringements on the people who DIDN'T DO IT!

83 posted on 02/19/2018 7:47:35 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (The GOP-Democrat-Media Uniparty must be destroyed.)
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To: Calvin Cooledge

Wasn’t it the Air Force who dropped the ball regarding the Texas church shooter? Something about the little psycho beating up his wife, and the Air Force authorities not putting the future shooter in a domestic violence database?


84 posted on 02/19/2018 7:47:40 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (No DACA Caca....Send the Nightmares home. "Americans are Dreamers, too." President Trump)
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To: JudyinCanada
Ok, at the risk of being eviscerated because of lack of knowledge, what is wrong with tougher background checks?

When you have a background check of any sort, then you are requiring that the federal government grant you permission to purchase a firearm.

If you have to ask permission to do something it is no longer a right; it is a privilege, and privileges can be revoked at any time for any reason or no reason at all. You don't have to ask permission to exercise a right.

The framers of the constitution didn't say the right to keep and bear arms only applies to those whom the government approves of. they said the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

85 posted on 02/19/2018 7:47:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Simon Green

Nick Cruz was only 19 and law enforcement had blown-off multiple tips. It is doubtful that an enhanced background check would have turned-up anything.


86 posted on 02/19/2018 7:48:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: grobdriver
You're already checked for felonies, drug use, dishonorable discharge, etc, etc.

Drug use? I don't recall ever providing a urine sample for any of the 4473s I filled out.

87 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:15 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Simon Green

Who gets to decide who is mentally unstable? The left and more than a few republican squishes declare that Trump and those that support him are mentally unstable. Plenty on the left argue that military veterans and gun owners in general are unstable.

Beware the slippery slope.


88 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:22 AM PST by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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To: Simon Green
The dude did have a background check....he passed it for whatever reason.

This did not stop him from doing what he did.

We need to be focusing on the mental health side of this argument. The dude was taking meds with known side effects.

The system had multiple warnings and was ignored.

89 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Simon Green
Maybe we should do more extensive background checks on FBI agents. You know to make sure they don’t organize a coup to overthrow our government and undermine the will of the people ultimately resulting in tyranny and genocide.

I’m really sick and tired of hearing about government doing background checks on us. Who the hell do these peolple think they are. We need to do background checks on all of them and I can tell you most would fail.

90 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:50 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: OKSooner

They knew he had mental problems but failed to get him the help he needed.

That’s why the focus on guns is both a cop-out and a diversion.

Just as well nothing will be done because liberalism is a mental illness.


91 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:52 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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To: Simon Green
There already is a mental health question on the 4473 form. I doubt anyone ever checks the yes box and expects the purchase to go through. The bottleneck is the reporting to the feds that places a person on the 'do not sell to' list has been debated over and over. Unless they build an appealable mechanism to bypass HIPPA regs from a Dr/Patient release of medical info to the feds it probably won't happen. Like the no-fly list, you don't know how you got on it, who put you on it, when were you put on it and how do you get off it. This do not sell list will be open to the same problems.

What will probably happen is a purchase application thru local police with a 30 day investigation to buy a firearm. A lot of power in the local deputy's hands, don't mouth off getting a ticket in that scenario.

92 posted on 02/19/2018 7:49:53 AM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Assault rifles are already heavily restricted.

You must live in an unfree state. An AR-15 (what I assume you are referring to) is CASH AND CARRY here in Alabama after filling out the 4473 form. And the form is an infringement.

The probably ISN'T THE GUN. It's this sick, GODLESS society and the media and the FBI enablers who WANT mass murders.

93 posted on 02/19/2018 7:50:50 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (The GOP-Democrat-Media Uniparty must be destroyed.)
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To: null and void

That’s good work on the chart.


94 posted on 02/19/2018 7:51:11 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: FrankR
And while we’re at it...twenty-five should be the minimum voting age too...same reasons.

Agree....if you change the age to own a gun....the age to vote goes with it.

The right to vote is in many ways more dangerous than owning a gun.

95 posted on 02/19/2018 7:52:48 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: OKSooner
That is indeed what a reasonable and prudent person would do.

It violates school and district policy.

I wonder why?

96 posted on 02/19/2018 7:53:24 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Mods need to get busy. There are trolls in here.


97 posted on 02/19/2018 7:54:26 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Assault rifles are already heavily restricted.

You've already bought into the LSM narrative....

What is an assault rife??

98 posted on 02/19/2018 7:54:32 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: JudyinCanada
Ok, at the risk of being eviscerated because of lack of knowledge, what is wrong with tougher background checks?

You won't get eviscerated from me and I keep several firearms, including so-called "assault weapons" in my home.

Eventually the public is going to demand that there be a mechanism in place to keep mentally/emotionally unstable people from buying firearms other than waiting until they're either a felon or adjudicated mentally ill.

It's going to happen. Even gun-owners are growing tired of life's losers buying a $500 AR-15 and leaving a trail of dead schoolchildren.

99 posted on 02/19/2018 7:54:32 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Well it's a legal affidavit, right? You are asked about drug use:

Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s)?s

Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year?

Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have you imprisoned for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?

Are you a fugitive from justice?

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes a determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or to others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs) or have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

Have you been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?

Are you subject to a court order restraining you from harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence?

Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?

Are you an alien illegally in the United States?

Are you an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?

Do you have a valid government-issued photo identification, such as a driver’s license?

100 posted on 02/19/2018 7:54:52 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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