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To: JudyinCanada
Ok, at the risk of being eviscerated because of lack of knowledge, what is wrong with tougher background checks?

When you have a background check of any sort, then you are requiring that the federal government grant you permission to purchase a firearm.

If you have to ask permission to do something it is no longer a right; it is a privilege, and privileges can be revoked at any time for any reason or no reason at all. You don't have to ask permission to exercise a right.

The framers of the constitution didn't say the right to keep and bear arms only applies to those whom the government approves of. they said the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

85 posted on 02/19/2018 7:47:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

shall not be infringed.
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Yeah, but they did not define it in the Constitution....../s

The founders did not consider that we would be dumbed down so far that we did not understand the plain language they used.
Shall not be infringed means just that.
Natural born citizen means naturally an American as one could not possibly be anything else, born here of citizen parents.


113 posted on 02/19/2018 8:12:19 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: from occupied ga; Lazamataz; All

I am gobsmacked at the responses from some of the people of this thread. I’m not certain how many of the people posting are really trolls, but I would think on a place sick as FR people would be able to separate emotion from logical thought.

Shall not be infringed.

I always thought it was simple enough that any functioning individual could understand.

Shall not.

That means never. Under ANY circumstance.

The real issue that should be the touchstones (that isn’t being discussed) is personal accountability. I believe in ABSOLUTE freedom, however I realized it only works with a society that requires ABSOLUTE personal accountability.
The reason our country is in trouble is because we no longer require, (and haven’t for a long time) required people to be accountable.

1A explains a GOD given right to say ANYTHING you want. You want to yell fire in a theatre? Your allowed that, but you will be held accountable for doing so.

You want to own a cannon? Crew served artillery? Full on machine gun? 2A is suppose to promise that right. But your not of the hook for the responsibility of YOUR actions. Your also not responsible for anyone else’s.

We as a society could clear up all the wrongs if WE held ALL responsible for their individual actions.

Until we return to this, there will be no fix, just feel good bandages on a rotten corpse.
Deciding to plan a way to push the political arena into change, is a difficult thing.


138 posted on 02/19/2018 10:17:45 AM PST by Oil Object Insp
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