#GetAnID
Posted on 02/15/2018 2:07:33 AM PST by vikingrinn
"Marvel Comics’s Black Panther was originally conceived in 1966 by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, two Jewish New Yorkers, as a bid to offer black readers a character to identify with."
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
>> he reminds me of what might happen if a mild-mannered athlete accidentally discovered a radioactive movie camera and was gifted with remarkable artistic vision.
Radioactivity would fog the film in the camera (and give the cameraman cancer) but “YAY SCIENCE!”
>>He’s interested in questions of identity: What does it mean to be a black person or an African person? “You know, you got to have the race conversation,” he told me, describing how his parents prepared him for the world. “And you can’t have that without having the slavery conversation. And with the slavery conversation comes a question of, O.K., so what about before that? And then when you ask that question, they got to tell you about a place that nine times out of 10 they’ve never been before. So you end up hearing about Africa, but it’s a skewed version of it. It’s not a tactile version.”
The slavery question, like why don’t black people condemn African tribe leaders for capturing other black Africans from other tribes and selling them?
Like why there is still slavery in Africa today?
Those questions?
Yup...sad.
>>This is why it doesn’t matter that Wakanda was an idea from a comic book, created by two Jewish artists. No one knows colonization better than the colonized, and black folks wasted no time in recolonizing Wakanda. No genocide or takeover of land was required. Wakanda is ours now. We do with it as we please.
Cultural appropriation is okay. Might makes right.
>>The artistic movement called Afrofuturism, a decidedly black creation, is meant to go far beyond the limitations of the white imagination. It isn’t just the idea that black people will exist in the future, will use technology and science, will travel deep into space. It is the idea that we will have won the future.
Sounds supremacist (”we will have won”) and separatist, as if “they” get there alone (without others’ contributions).
Calling your imagination “black” or “white” imposes limitation on your imagination.
Will Black Panther be an “authentic enough” black for the black community?
- Will he speak “White” English or ebonics?
- Will he dress in a suit and tie like a Honky, in “African” style clothing, or will his pants sag around his butt?
- Will he be well educated and well mannered, or behave like a hood rat?
- Does he smoke a lot of weed or take other drugs?
- Is he in control of his own destiny or a helpless victim of white supremacy who needs affirmative action to succeed?
>> At the heart of Wakanda, she suggests, lie some of our most excruciating existential questions: “What if they didn’t come?” she asked me. “And what if they didn’t take us? What would that have been?”
Call it “A Day Without White People” (like that film about What If all Hispanic people disappeared, how would ANYTHING get done)...
>> Afrofuturism, from its earliest iterations, has been an attempt to imagine an answer to these questions. The movement spans from free-jazz thinkers like Sun Ra, who wrote of an African past filled with alien technology and extraterrestrial beings, to the art of Krista Franklin and Ytasha Womack, to the writers Octavia Butler, Nnedi Okorafor and Derrick Bell, to the music of Jamila Woods and Janelle Monáe.
Bet there is NO Sun Ra music on the soundtrack but plenty of hip hop.
>>Comic books are uniquely suited to handling this proposition. In them the laws of our familiar world are broken: Mild-mannered students become godlike creatures, mutants walk among us and untold power is, in an instant, granted to the most downtrodden. They offer an escape from reality, and who might need to escape reality more than a people kidnapped to a stolen land and treated as less-than-complete humans?
Ohhh I don’t know, maybe some Jewish writers and artists, who after serving in World War II fighting the very people who were enslaving and murdering their relatives went on to create the super-heroes we know today?
Libtards going to keep on with this Black mantra BS on this movie and no one but libtards will go to watch it...Marvel Productions and Stan Lee better look at the big picture instead looking to only feed SJWs...
Pretty tired of sh** these days boiling down to race and diversity, sh** getting old real quick. I for one will not pay to watch this movie whether at a movie theater or when it hits PPV. Utter BS that this one frakin movie is setting the world on fire because it feeds to the racial mantra of idiots, bigots, and racists.
>>But by focusing on a black female hero — one who indeed saves the universe — DuVernay is embodying the deepest and most powerful essence of Afrofuturism: to imagine ourselves in places where we had not been previously imagined.
There is a Savior of the universe but to Barack Hussein Obama, Jesus Christ was simply a historic figure, not his Savior.
>>To say that “Roots” held the attention of a nation for its eight-consecutive-night run in January 1977 would be an understatement. Its final episode was viewed by 51.1 percent of all American homes with televisions, a kind of reach that seemed sure to bring about some change in opportunities, some new standing in American culture. “The expectation,” Burton says, “was that this was going to lead to all kinds of positive portrayals of black people on the screen both big and small, and it just didn’t happen. It didn’t go down that way, and it’s taken years.”
Roots DID create CHANGE, the tv-Mini-Series became a “thing” and with so many tv-Mini-Series in the early 80s, Marvel Comics and DC even began to create comic book Mini-Series that presented characters and/or story-lines that were self-contained and only expected to run 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7 issues. 12 tops (even Watchmen was a 12 issue mini series).
Argh. Is that two guys at the bottom?
#GetAnID
I saw Stanley Leiber (Stan Lee) speak a few years ago and about all he had to say was that “Marvel has a new superhero (or heroine) coming out who’s Indian, or Latino, or Asian, or muslim, or...”
And each demographic in the audience cheered.
Tim Burton’s first Batman movie was a defining moment for comic book geeks who’d long wanted a “non-campy” portrayal of a superhero. And it had a big name cast and was a box office hit.
>>They don’t go to movies and don’t read because it is considered a “white” thing to do. Imagine that. Reading is “uncool”.
People turning away from reading is what inspired Ray Bradbury to write Fahrenheit 451. He said that the public was getting away from reading and consuming most of their information and entertainment from radio and tv.
I hardly think that the release of a 2nd string comic book movie will be considered one of them.
And hope his wife doesn’t walk towards you with a car tire...
The author of this NYTripe twice mentions MLK but neglects to discuss how Dr.King spoke out against black separatists and black supremacists (such as those in the Nation of Islam, which is tied to this rhetoric in this movie).
He would not see this film as a positive role model.
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