Senator Cruz Casts Lone Vote Against Immigration Bill Debate

breitbart ^ | BOB PRICE

[davikkm]

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) cast the lone vote against bringing a House bill to the Senate floor to being the debate on immigration reform. Senators voted 97-1 in favor of moving the bill forward for discussion. Senator Cruz took the stand based on a long-held belief that there should not be a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Cruz’ spokesperson, Catherine Frazier told The Hill that the senator “believes it would be a serious mistake for Congress to pass legislation that grants a path to citizenship for those here illegally.”

“Such a policy is inconsistent with the promises that he and Republicans have made to the voters, and is in fact further to the left of President Obama’s position,” Frazier explained.

Despite Cruz’ vote on principle, the House bill which will be used as a vehicle for Senate debate will move forward. Debate is expected to begin on Tuesday.

[mosesdapoet]

It was an island that came under the jurisdiction of either Bermuda or Jamaica

[Lurkinanloomin]

Churchill was not a US citizen of any kind, certainly not eligible to be President.

[Oil Object Insp]

George was actually born in an exclave of the USA, which happens to be surrounded by Mexico. The citizens of that exclave have a post office and vote as normal citizens. Not any different than the other exclave portion of the USA. Up until the late 90s there were quite a few exclave scattered across the world. Some were islands it parts of islands others colonies within now foreign countries. Not every exclave is listed in wiki.

[ontap]

If one of his parents was a American citizen then he was a citizen unless he renouced it. Barach Obama’s father was not a citizen and he was elected and served eight years!!

[Hawthorn]

>> It was an island that came under the jurisdiction of either Bermuda or Jamaica <<

Well, no.

But what difference, at this point, does it make?

And by the way, Google is your friend.

[Hawthorn]

>> Sounds like progress to me! <<

Well, yeah. I suppose so.

But to be brutally honest, I gotta confess that I do sorta miss the references to good ‘ole Vattel.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Tell that to all the Amerasian children left behind in Southeast Asia.

[ontap]

If the father was American and they could prove it then they are citizens!!!

[Hawthorn]

>> If the father was American and they could prove it then they are citizens <<

One suspects you’re basing that statement merely on Congressionally enacted legislation.

But the ultimate authority on these matters, the late Emmerich de Vattel, surely would not agree.

[ontap]

But the ultimate authority on these matters, the late Emmerich de Vattel, surely would not agree.

We all have our "ULTIMATE AUTHORITIES" Thousands of Veitnamese children were brought back as full citizens!!!

[Hawthorn]

>> Thousands of Veitnamese children were brought back as full citizens <<

Yep, all due to that pesky clause in the U. S. Constitution that gives Congress full authority to determine who needs to go thru a formal procedure of "naturalization" to be a citizen.

(Poor old Vattel must be turning in his grave to know that the Founding Fathers allowed Congress to ignore his diktat re citizenship.)

[Rusty0604]

Incoming below.

[Radix]

Actually, the ‘borders’ indeed do have nothing to do with it, but the real distinction is that it is required that one be a ‘natural born citizen.’

There were Citizens and Natural Born Citizens well before there was anything such as a naturalized citizen. Congress did not ‘Naturalize’ before there was a Constitution.

See Article 1 Section 2 ....No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, .....

.....at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

And NO, Cruz is not now, never was, and never can be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States.

[taxcontrol]

Some simple questions

1) What part of the constitution can be ignored? I don’t believe any clause or section can be ignored

2) What are enumerated powers? Those are powers specifically identified in the constitution and assigned to one of the three branches of government.

3) What are the limits on enumerated powers? Unless the constitution specifically states that there is a limitation, there are no limits on the powers granted.

4) What powers are specifically enumerated to Congress regarding citizenship? Note, not just immigration, Congress has the enumerated power over ALL of the rules of naturalization. That is both who does and who does not need to be naturalized. That includes how a person obtains citizenship and includes if they naturally acquire citizenship by the circumstances of their birth. An example of this though additionally ratified as an amendment is the the US citizenship by location (jus soli). If congress wants to decide those born with red hair are citizens at birth, then that is within their enumerated power.

5) One who is born as a citizen and by the conditions of their birth never are in need of and are not naturalized, are natural born citizens. The use of the word natural means “existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial)”.

6) Sen Cruz was, is and always has been and continues to be a citizen of the United States from his birth. As such, he is a natural born citizen.