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ICE detains a Polish doctor and green-card holder who has lived in the U.S. for nearly 40 years
Washington Post ^ | Jan. 22, 2018 | Samantha Schmidt

Posted on 01/22/2018 1:44:11 PM PST by Innovative

Lukasz Niec was 5 years old when his parents brought him and his sister to the United States from Poland. With two suitcases in tow, his parents — both doctors — left behind a country on the verge of social turmoil. It was 1979, about two years before the country’s authoritarian communist government declared martial law.

Niec received a temporary green card and, in 1989, became a lawful permanent resident. He grew up in Michigan, went to medical school, became a doctor, and raised a daughter and stepdaughter.

But on Tuesday morning, immigration authorities arrested Niec at his home, just after he had sent his 12-year-old stepdaughter off to school. Niec, a physician specializing in internal medicine at Bronson Healthcare Group in Kalamazoo, Mich., has been detained in a county jail ever since, awaiting a bond hearing and possible deportation.

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To: Paul R.
Evidently it wasn't due to an expired green card, which is not specifically stated, but rather that his past history catching up with him......

But I'm not cancelling out the possibility that his card wasn't expired considering the fact that the MSM is sympathetic in their reporting of incidents such as this.........They never reported why this guy came to the attention of ICE in the first place.

With that being said, if the following is true, then yes, he should have been deported since he was in violation of the terms of his initial green card.......

The second of those convictions was eventually expunged from his criminal record, his sister said, as part of a guilty plea through Michigan’s Holmes Youthful Trainee Act, a program intended to help young offenders avoid the stigma of a criminal conviction. But even though the crime was scrubbed off his public record, it can still be used against him for removal from the country, his sister said.

61 posted on 01/22/2018 3:53:55 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: beergarden
One of those I know of is also Canadian.

Well, my two step-sisters I mentioned are as far right conservative as you can get. That goes for the Honduran husband of one of them.......Don't bring up amnesty for illegal aliens from central and south America or you will get an ear full..LOL!

62 posted on 01/22/2018 3:58:25 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: beergarden

... because the libs wants to make an example of someone who is white.

... because the libs want to punish someone who is a law-abiding asset to the nation to cover up for all the criminals, deadbeats, and gang members. So they can say “See? This is what happens when you deport all these good people.”


63 posted on 01/22/2018 4:03:19 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Innovative

He had time to get Citizenship but elected not too. I think the Feds will allow some flexibility.


64 posted on 01/22/2018 4:03:21 PM PST by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: Innovative

The article is deceptive. You have to read several paragraphs before learning the real reason for the arrest.


65 posted on 01/22/2018 4:03:42 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Innovative

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1227

deportable aliens


66 posted on 01/22/2018 4:06:59 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: tschatski

I have mixed feelings about deportation for first offense DUI. This even though people I know & worked with have been killed by a drunk driver. (Great guys & excellent musicians - the one could play the wah-wah guitar solo from “Salisbury” as well as or maybe even better than Mick Box. They got t-boned, going home one night, by a drunk driver who sped through a stop sign at a country road intersection. I don’t recall the exact blood alcohol level, just that I was surprised that the killer had made it 100 ft. ft. down the road without going into a ditch first. He survived, of course.)

But still, blood alcohol limits are so low in some states now... I’d say heavy fine, maybe 200 hours of related community work, and a stern warning that if repeated, the offender does not get a 2nd chance. Also, if anyone got hurt on 1st offense, or there was a serious accident, out you go. OTOH, if the DUI was a 1st time stop for such, and is not repeated, after 5 years or so, it is not held against you in deportation considerations. This especially if the evidence indicates the offender has corrected his / her course and is a valuable resident of the US.

As for the article, what I came away with was that ICE is justified in taking a hard look at the guy, but he should not be “automatically” deported, and there should be some arrangement (ankle monitor?) where he can continue to work, until his case is determined.

That said, maybe there are additional factors we do not know.


67 posted on 01/22/2018 4:30:52 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Hot Tabasco
They never reported why this guy came to the attention of ICE in the first place.

What with ICE being more aggressive now - in general fine with me - it was most likely just a review of records, with new criteria attached. Or, my "vengeful ex" theory still seems good to me.

Earlier on, the guy was probably just lucky: ICE likely just "missed" him, as there are many minor violators of one thing or another, and ICE actually should focus on the worst, first.

I wonder what the MSM's "take" would be IF the ex turns up with an ugly story?

68 posted on 01/22/2018 4:49:07 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Innovative
It is a completely sane thing.

What is not sane is determining why he didn’t become a US citizen, unless he knew his record would make that more difficult.

I’m sorry, but after that many decades you need to make a decision or let it be made for you.

69 posted on 01/22/2018 5:10:47 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.n)
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To: Innovative

A green card still lets you be evicted for any offense.


70 posted on 01/22/2018 5:11:53 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.n)
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To: Innovative
He has a green card, which means he is legally in the US.

He has a criminal record. He's not a citizen, Poland's no longer Communist, and he no longer needs asylum.

Theft by receiving and vandalism.

71 posted on 01/22/2018 5:14:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Innovative
Having a green card means he is here legally. Period.

Some open border liberals here on FR apparently don't understand Green Cards. You are required to obey all laws of the United States, the States, and local jurisdictions. (Pop quiz - what color are Green Cards?)

72 posted on 01/22/2018 5:19:39 PM PST by PAR35
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To: 353FMG
Once an immigrant accepts US citizenship he is no longer welcome to return to his country of origin.

Well, since I've been giving a hard time to the open border folks, I'll take a break to say that that isn't even close to an accurate statement.

73 posted on 01/22/2018 5:21:44 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Perhaps I should have said: Once an immigrant accepts US citizenship he is no longer welcome in his country of origin. A friend of mine was unemployed here in the US while he had a job opportunity in his country of origin in Europe, He did not get a work permit nor a residence visa from the country of birth.


74 posted on 01/22/2018 6:06:44 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Paul R.
If someone is going to be in this Country for 40 years and partake in the benefits of this Country, then the right thing to do is to become a citizen.

I have dealt with people who were part of Reagan's amnesty and for 25 years hadn't applied for citizenship even though they reaped the benefits. Free healthcare, welfare, etc.

Plus, originally they were encouraged to become citizens, but because they were too lazy and the fact they had to learn a modicum of U.S. history, which applied to the laziness, they neglected to become citizens.

For those people, I say, "T.S."

75 posted on 01/22/2018 6:52:54 PM PST by Parmy
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To: Parmy

If one is here LEGALLY as a Green Card immigrant, then aside from voting (a majority vote Dem - is that desirable?) and potential deportation for misbehavior, how are they different in terms of contributions or benefits than US citizens? Are you telling me indigent Green Card immigrants get preferential care over indigent citizens? Do Green Card immigrants with good incomes (there are many) pay less taxes than citizens with the same income? I don’t think so...

I really don’t see what the benefit to the US is of pushing green card immigrants to become citizens, other than better knowledge (citizenship classes) might make them better residents. Fine. I think requiring green card holders to pass “resident” classes for every year or 2 they are in the US is a good idea — just so long as the classes are not taught by flaming libs! Online classes could be very useful, here (except for testing - too easy to cheat.) Plus the immigrants have to pay for the classes, unless they can proficiency out of them at the outset of that year’s class. If you flunk, gotta take it again, or get the boot. An “A” chops next year’s class time in half. Ditto (somewhat) for English language classes or proficiency: If one has not acquired basic English proficiency in 3 years, and better in 5, out they go.

The solution to legal immigrants eating up “social” benefits, by and large, is merit based immigration. Illegals - gradually get ‘em out of here.

Immigrants must pledge allegiance to become citizens, but how much does this really affect what they think, feel, and do? I suspect if they are reluctant to become citizens, they’ll do it if necessary to be able to stay, but it won’t affect them much otherwise. I’d rather that be “open”, than have a bunch of people “faking” it.

With luck, some retiring Green Card immigrants will go back to their birth countries when they retire, taking strain off our social care resources.

DHS makes good money off Green Card renewals.

The benefit to pushing Green Card immigrants to become citizens is...?


76 posted on 01/22/2018 10:05:05 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: 353FMG; PAR35

That’s true, and it at least sometimes works both ways. To get even a tourist Visa to the US, from a 3rd world country, one must have a good job there, references, a US “sponsor”, in some cases be able to prove things like ownership of residence / property, money in the bank, etc.

Of course, a problem with some of these countries is that such proofs are not hard to buy, then just find or buy a “sponsor”.


77 posted on 01/22/2018 10:16:09 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: Thank You Rush

OH BULL; I was accused of attempted murder and spent 6 months in the redline brig at Pendleton, after being sent back stateside from the Long Binh Jail awaiting court martial on those charges.

Did I do it: I won’t tell
Was I exonerated at Courts Martial: YES I WAS.
98 percent of human beings have done things in their youth or young adult life, that upon consideration were probably NOT GOOD IDEAS.


78 posted on 01/23/2018 12:31:51 AM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Innovative

We aren’t getting the whole story - they say it’s because he made a couple teenage mistakes then note that he pled guilty to operating while drunk less than 9 years ago - I’ll wager ICE has info the WaaaaaPo doesn’t and therefore we don’t have.


79 posted on 01/23/2018 2:56:40 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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To: Innovative

Well on the upside, if thus is who ICE is targeting, then all the violent offenders must have already been reported right?


80 posted on 01/23/2018 4:05:27 AM PST by oincobx
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