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Court: Pennsylvania's congressional map is illegal and must be redrawn
The Morning Call ^ | 22 January 2018 | Steve Esack

Posted on 01/22/2018 11:35:12 AM PST by napscoordinator

Pennsylvania's Republican-leaning congressional map is illegal and must be redrawn, according to a 4-3 ruling by the Democratic-leaning state Supreme Court.

The 3-page ruling was released this afternoon.

The order says the state’s 2011 map “plainly and palpably violates the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.” The ruling directs the GOP-controlled Legislature to redraw the map and submit it to Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, by Feb. 9 and the court for approval by Feb. 15. If lawmakers or the governor miss those deadlines, the court would draw its own map “based on the evidentiary record developed.”

Gerrymandering foes urged to apply pressure A new map would impact the candidates running in the May 18 because those district boundaries could change. Republicans have consistently won 13 of the state’s 20 congressional seats since the map went into effect in the 2012 election.

Democrats quickly took to Twitter to celebrate the victory. But it could be a short one.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2018paprimary; congress; congressional; congressionalmap; elections; gerrymandering; map; paping; pastatesc; pasupremecourt; pennsylvania; primary
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To: napscoordinator

>> and lose seats in New York

Which NY seats are you concerned about?


61 posted on 01/22/2018 1:56:53 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TheNext

Needs to be more generalized than that.

Many of our states do not have nice shapes conducive to just placing similar nice shapes inside.


62 posted on 01/22/2018 2:05:06 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: TheNext

Violates the VRA.


63 posted on 01/22/2018 2:08:53 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: napscoordinator

Funny... how this is only unconstitutional when Republicans do it !


64 posted on 01/22/2018 2:36:54 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: kabar

I hope that’s true. For some reason I read that this was final order.


65 posted on 01/22/2018 2:43:52 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Gene Eric

11, 19, and 22 for sure and maybe others. Do you agree?


66 posted on 01/22/2018 2:47:30 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Extinct” would be nice.


67 posted on 01/22/2018 2:57:24 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

VRA?


68 posted on 01/22/2018 3:03:14 PM PST by TheNext
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Nice shapes are irrelevant.

But if intelligent people do not understand basic algebra ...


69 posted on 01/22/2018 3:05:03 PM PST by TheNext
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To: kabar

I hope SCOTUS saves it.

Demon rats are disgusting.


70 posted on 01/22/2018 3:33:02 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: TheNext

Voting Rights Act. That’s why we have Black & Hispanic districts, both at the Congressional and state levels that look like Rorschach Test ink blots. Several states that have these must get approval from the U.S. Justice Department before state legislatures can sign off on drawing districts. You can’t just do “rectangular” lines, because it violates this federal act.


71 posted on 01/22/2018 3:34:48 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: napscoordinator

Not so fast! State Constitutions can be challenged if they violate the Federal/National Constitution. The Bill of Rights was used often to declare state constitutional provisions invalid; the 14th Amendment applied the Bill of Rights to the states, overriding any state constitutional restrictions on blacks voting, violations of separation of church & state, segregation, etc.

Folks, I am sure the Roberts, Gorsuch, Thomas majority will issue a stay and eventually overturn it. Let’s follow this closely - our country depends on it


72 posted on 01/22/2018 3:47:22 PM PST by LOVETRUMP (should alwso)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The black & hispanic districts violate the black & hispanic people’s rights outside said districts.

So the VRA violates minorities voting rights.

I doubt if VRA says that. Usually it is the leftist fake interpretation of the law.


73 posted on 01/22/2018 3:48:46 PM PST by TheNext
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To: napscoordinator

They can declare the state law unconstitutional, but I’d rather they didn’t. Let them re-draw the map and lose even more. Pennsylvania’s gone red, and it’s not because of any bloody map.


74 posted on 01/22/2018 3:50:59 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: napscoordinator

Will check out. thanks.


75 posted on 01/22/2018 3:58:11 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: napscoordinator

I know I don’t live in PA, I live in Wisconsin, and we have the same situation where our BLUE counties are greater populated, but the REST of our State ROARED this last time around, as did yours! From what I’m finding on-line, I don’t think you need to take your suicide pill just yet over this, FRiend! :)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-voters/in-pennsylvania-women-who-voted-for-trump-voice-support-after-first-year-idUSKBN1F90FT

http://triblive.com/politics/politicalheadlines/11448443-74/trump-county-clinton

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/20161110_How_Trump_took_Pennsylvania__Wins__almost__everywhere_but_the_southeast.html


76 posted on 01/22/2018 4:00:15 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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77 posted on 01/22/2018 4:02:01 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: TheNext

I’m in a Black VRA State Senate district. As a White person, my voting rights don’t count in it.


78 posted on 01/22/2018 4:09:52 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Eleutheria5

PA has an election in March with district 16 (I think that’s the district). Those results will be interesting.


79 posted on 01/22/2018 4:35:51 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I try not to be reactionary, but it’s hard. Lol.


80 posted on 01/22/2018 4:36:35 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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