Posted on 01/18/2018 6:08:48 AM PST by artichokegrower
With the debate over immigration to the U.S. as fiery as ever, a new analysis suggests that Silicon Valley would be lost without foreign-born technology workers.
About 71 percent of tech employees in the Valley are foreign born, compared to around 50 percent in the San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward region, according to a new report based on 2016 census data.
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In California, it’s hard for the white men over 50 to get a tech job.
Companies game the system to get H1B workers. My husband still has a job, but he hates it, and he’s seen plenty of friends lose their jobs.
That's just in that one specific area, not even counting those who have mathematics or engineering degrees that work to get computer certified in an application, who could fill roles within tech companies.
Don't buy into this whole "H-1B -- we don't have enough people so we have to go outside" nonsense.
Any reasonable tech position will see dozens of applicants, but the companies almost always choose to "outsource".
Later
Almost all of my friends and former coworkers over 40 in tech have been replaced over the last year... and these were top notch people. There is a big Gen X pushout underway. Hell, I used to write software for the friggin Space Shuttle and then was a manager for Flight Operations Technology (airline) with loads of performance rewards, and yet I was pushed out. They had to hire 2 h1-bs and a millennial to replace me. and it’s a huge mess over there now according to ex coworkers. Performance doesn’t matter in some places.
What are they doing now instead?
Some are still unemployed. A few are doing contract work. One started a company, but won’t see any income for some time. I’m part of that friend’s company, but it’s uncompensated until it grows. In my case, I invested well and have always been very frugal so I’m surviving. Granted, it helps that my wife has a good paying job in tech. Over 40 women in tech don’t appear to suffer the same push out that white men do. Many millennials think we’re the devil, and they make up the bulk of the HR gatekeepers now.
Their mere presence lowers the value of every other tech person in the field. They expand the pool of workers lowering the value of labor. It is simple supply and demand & everyone with a functioning brain knows it.
The program needs to either end or go through a massive reform requiring that any H-1B holder receives a minimum of 200% of the average tech worker in their field. That will lower the incentive to flood the market with these high tech Indentured Servants.
A majority of Native STEM graduates do not work in STEM. That alone is proof. almost 74% according to the U.S. Census. Does that sound familiar? It should the lead of the story is 71% of STEM workers in the Valley are FOREIGN BORN.
Why would someone invest tens of thousands of dollars in a STEM field only to work in a service job? They wouldn’t. They have been told of the plentiful jobs available in STEM only to find out that they are all filled by foreign slaves who have their Visas held hostage by their slave masters.
This program is nothing but a scam. It is worse than corporate welfare! It subsidizes the profits of the Worlds most profitable companies while lowering the value of American labor. That lowers the tax revenues of the government. The Visa holders also send Billions of dollars in remittance back to their home countries every year causing a massive transfer of American wealth out of the country. So instead of that money going to buy something here and increasing the local economy , it is increasing the economy of India or China.
Everything about it is a detriment to our economy and our country. It is a massive scam!
Then your company needs to do MORE. Advertise nationwide esp in middle sized cities, fund internships and RAISE your compensation to the amount Americans expect to make. This is just a patently false statement and proves the company is taking the easy and cheap way out. What if those H1Bs disappeared next year? What would your company do then? THAT is how you should be thinking today.
When you saturate a country with people from the outside who depress wages in that industry, you disincentivize locals from pursuing those roles.
DJT should have the Labor dept amend the use of H1b visas. Since the purpose is for critical employees in positions where no citizens qualify, there should be a premium paid for such a solution. Make the starting salary the average of the top 3 salaries in the industry in the local market. One pays the price for FedEx over the USPS when delivery is critical. No difference for imported employees.
Fifteen years ago the people coming on H1B really were India’s “best and brightest”.
Today, not so much. A lot of really pedestrian candidates who don’t need to be here are coming. Looks like we’ve tapped out their top talent (or the economy in India has grown to the point where they choose to stay home).
But that F1 OPT student visa program is WAY out of control (and the raw numbers absolutely dwarf H1B)
It sure wasn’t that way in the 80s when I worked there after getting out of the Navy. I’ve been saying for years that H1B need to go, all of them. They come and stay, keep adding more. Shutting out good American workers, new young American workers. Doesn’t help that our schools over the past 40 years, and likely longer, have sought out “diversity” by importing high number of foreign students to lock out American youth. It is a vicious cycle we now see the results of. Need to undo the damage. Start by ending H1B and sending them all packing. All of them!
And don’t forget L1 visas.
I have a degree in computer science but quit working to raise kids. Makes me think he should have been the one that stayed home with the kids.
Couple each H-1B visa with a requirement for a STEM scholarship and internship that will replace the H-1B hire when fully trained.
Pretty soon, there won’t be many native born Americans living in California.
Re post 17.
My daughter got a degree in elec engineering at Clemson. Approx 50 in program, 6 US born, rest were foreign born Chinese and Indian. Later she got a masters in finance-something and same thing. Approx 30 in program, 3 US born, 2 were women.
I am not making a conclusion with this experience.
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