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Who’s Lying, Trump or Durbin?
Lifezette ^ | 1/13/18 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 01/13/2018 8:01:23 AM PST by markomalley

In the battle of credibility between President Donald Trump and Senate Minority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) over whether the chief executive referred to certain Third Word countries as “s***holes,” most of the media have sided with the Democrat.

But a pair of Republican senators who were at the White House meeting Thursday, Georgia’s David Perdue and Arkansas’ Tom Cotton, said Friday they do not recall Trump making the remark.

Former Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), said on “The Ingraham Angle” Friday night that Durbin’s account should be viewed with great skepticism.

“It’s the only thing they have,” said Chaffetz, now a Fox News analyst. “Look, there were six members of Congress in that room. There was only one Democrat. And only the Democrat is saying that this happened. And I think it’s highly suspect when Dick Durbin, who has a history of doing this — I mean, he’s used this card on Republicans before and was absolutely wrong.”

Fox News host Laura Ingraham referenced past questionable statements by Durbin.

In October 2013, Durbin wrote in a Facebook post that a House Republican leader treated then-President Barack Obama disrespectfully.

“In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House leader told the president: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote at the time.

The problem, according to no less a source than Obama’s White House spokesman, was that it was untrue.

“I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” then-press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at the daily briefing.

Carney reiterated the point when asked a second time: “My understanding is that, again, from a participant in the meeting, that that didn’t happen.”

For his part, Trump denied disparaging Haiti during the meeting with lawmakers to negotiate a deal to grant legal status to people enrolled in the soon-to-expire Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

“Never said anything derogatory about Haitians other than Haiti is, obviously, a very poor and troubled country,” Trump tweeted Friday. “Never said ‘take them out.’ Made up by Dems. I have a wonderful relationship with Haitians. Probably should record future meetings — unfortunately, no trust!”

Ingraham also highlighted a 2005 speech on the Senate floor in which Durbin compared U.S. soldiers to Nazis and goons of Khmer Rouge leader Pol Pot.

Democratic strategist Robin Biro told Ingraham that, as a military veteran, he, too, took offense to Durbin’s comments about the military. But he tried to turn the conversation back to the current president.

“Politicians say the darndest things, and Donald Trump is now a politician, and he is one of those people saying the most absurd things,” he said.

But to Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), it is Cotton and Perdue who are not telling the truth.

“It tells me Sens. Cotton and Perdue are lying,” Lieu told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “If the president of the United States said the word s***hole 24 hours ago, you would know that. Either the president said it or he didn’t. You don’t say you don’t recall. And that tells me the president actually did say that.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who joined Durbin in presenting the DACA proposal that Trump rejected, issued a statement that did not directly confirm Durbin’s allegation but suggested the president said something offensive.

“Following comments by the president, I said my piece directly to him yesterday,” he stated. “The president and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel. I’ve always believed that America is an idea, not defined by its people but by its ideals.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: hellholes
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To: Rusty0604

“There’s a video of Durbin in 2010 calling for an end to chain migration, which he now says is an offensive term.”

Notice right on cue the MSM is now using “family based migration” instead of chain migration.These lefteste are masters of the technique of hijacking language. Who could be against family based migration?


41 posted on 01/13/2018 9:20:36 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Bayan

Yes, Durbin has all the right credentials demanded by people in IL!


42 posted on 01/13/2018 9:22:26 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Alberta's Child
That sounds reasonable. It's possible that the word came up in conversation, but whether it was tied to any specific country or countries is harder to say.

Politicians and deal-makers are very profane people, but they have to be sure that the people they use them with won't rat them out.

43 posted on 01/13/2018 9:23:39 AM PST by x
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To: usconservative

Being in IL, why do people there rally to the hardest leftists in the country?


44 posted on 01/13/2018 9:24:34 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: markomalley

Would it be possible to ban Durbin from the White House?


45 posted on 01/13/2018 9:28:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Headline: Muslims Fear Backlash from Tomorrow's Terror Attack - Mark Steyn)
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To: gibsonguy

That bunch from Congress cooked up their proposed DACA deal on their own and asked to present it to the President. It isn’t that Trump “allowed” them to participate. Congress is an independent body and members can work with each other to draft legislative proposals.


46 posted on 01/13/2018 9:31:34 AM PST by Avalon Memories (The question about.out fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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To: Alberta's Child

Mark Simone


47 posted on 01/13/2018 9:35:07 AM PST by dennisw (The strong take from the weak, but the smart take from the strong)
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To: bert

“I speak with employers and the constant is they can’t find people that are either not druggies or that can be relied on to come to work every day.”

90 million drug addicts? I know you’re not saying that.

So what do we have? A lot of people who aren’t terribly reliable, and a lot who smoke pot once or twice a month.

Continued immigration from shitholes will destroy our country. Given that one undeniable fact, I think employers should put up with casual pot smokers and people who take the occasional three-day weekend. It’s not ideal, I know, but look at the alternative.

What are they really saying? “If I hire these Americans, my bottom line will be affected. Not much, but some. To avoid that, I’m going to destroy the United States of America.”

Hiring illegals needs to be made a capital crime. Hiring an immigrant when there’s an American applying for the job needs to be a serious crime.

“The unemployed are Americans but that doesn’t mean they are all worth a damn”

Neither does it mean that they are all worthless. And it certainly doesn’t mean that some tribesman from Somalia is better.

You take some guy, “graduated” from a slum high school, not very reliable for $7.00 an hour. Train him up and pay him $30.00 an hour as a machinist, and he’ll start showing up for work religiously. I’ve seen it. And that allows him to attract a wife, have some kids, and be around to raise them.

Not every individual can be saved, of course, but some can.

Back in the 1960s there were gummint programs to train in things like machine tool operation and small engine repair.

Some of the students actually learned how to do those things and got jobs. It was one of the few programs I’ve seen that actually had some salubrious effects on unemployability.


48 posted on 01/13/2018 9:35:21 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dennisw

Yes - that’s him!


49 posted on 01/13/2018 9:37:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Avalon Memories

You’re saying Trump can’t call up McConnell and say I don’t want that backstabbing son of a bitch Flake to be part of this?


50 posted on 01/13/2018 9:41:28 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

When a lib tells me they’re pro choice, I say you mean pro abortion, and it always makes them mad. :-)


51 posted on 01/13/2018 9:49:16 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: markomalley

“The answer here is obvious.”

It is, but even if the President did say it, so what?

The President is more well traveled than I am, and I’ve seen my quota of shithole countries.

5.56mm


52 posted on 01/13/2018 9:53:43 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: markomalley

Texas fossil posted this
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3621925/posts


53 posted on 01/13/2018 9:58:35 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: markomalley

“...most of the media have sided with the Democrat.”

Because most of the media ARE democrats.


54 posted on 01/13/2018 10:04:43 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: markomalley

Turdbin waxed poetic about Fidel Castroonthe Snate floor, total Commie liar ..


55 posted on 01/13/2018 10:13:39 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: markomalley

My bet is that the senate minority wimp dickless turdbin is lying.


56 posted on 01/13/2018 10:18:10 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: markomalley
“It tells me Sens. Cotton and Perdue are lying,” Lieu told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “If the president of the United States said the word s***hole 24 hours ago, you would know that. Either the president said it or he didn’t. You don’t say you don’t recall. And that tells me the president actually did say that.”

That is the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard and only a liberal would fall for it. Actually, the reverse of what he said is true: If Trump had actually used the word in question, then someone might be expected to remember hearing it 24 hours later. But if someone DIDN'T say a particular word in your presence 24 hours ago, it would be impossible to remember something that wasn't said. If I said to you, "Yesterday when we were together, I told you I was once a lottery winner--don't you remember?" when I, in fact, did not say it, your first reaction would be, "I don't remember you saying any such thing."

57 posted on 01/13/2018 10:20:46 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: markomalley

Can’t trust anything Graham or Durbin say both have s**t for brains.


58 posted on 01/13/2018 10:24:10 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: markomalley

Since that fecal matter hit the fan on Thursday, and POTUS denied saying it; there have been NUMEROUS recorded examples shown of instances when Dick Durbin has blatantly lied about numerous people and things. And he has been firced to confess some of them, even in tears.


59 posted on 01/13/2018 10:26:07 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: markomalley

HA HA Dick Durbin and the Truth!! The evil Axis of Dickhead Durbin, House Speaker Mike Madigan and Rahm Emanuel have made Illinois a complete Shit Hole. # 1 move out State in the US, Sky High taxes and $$ Billions in debt.


60 posted on 01/13/2018 10:33:54 AM PST by EC Washington
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