Posted on 01/03/2018 12:30:34 PM PST by jazusamo
Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is directly challenging Special Counsel Robert Mueller, charging in a law suit filed on Wednesday that the prosecutor lacked the legal authority to investigate and indict him on pre-2016 money laundering charges.
Calling the indictment “fanciful,” attorney Kevin Downing’s suit in U.S. District Court says Mr. Mueller was appointed in May with a mandate to investigate possible Russia-Trump campaign collusion in the hacking of Democrat Party computers.
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Yes, but who in Congress is even talking about cutting Mueller's funding? In reality, the probability that happens is close to 0%
The Constitution gives Congress SOLE power to launch and try impeachment (U.S. const, art. I, sec. 6).
Show me where the Constitution authorizes the President to appoint a special investigator to investigate the President. It is not there. It is senseless as well as unconstitutional. The whole thing stinks and needs to be shut down.
I’m now wondering if the whole purpose of this move is to set up a legal mechanism that’s going to be used to force the illicit FISA surveillance of the Trump campaign out into the open.
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Read that again and think about the implication of what you've written.
Mueller is not investigating President Trump.
You - “Mueller is not investigating President Trump.”
Fact - “Mueller was authorized to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-mueller-does-what-special-prosecutors-do/article/2639509
So you’re off on that one.
So again, show me where the Constitution authorizes the President to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate ANYBODY, much less the President himself ESPECIALLY when there’s no reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
The ONLY branch authorized to impeach, which presumptively would include any necessary investigations based on reasonable suspicion or probable cause, is CONGRESS, NOT the President.
There’s something fishy about Obama’s secret background. Maybe it’s birth details, maybe its parentage, maybe its lying on his college forms to get foreign student aid, maybe it is involved with his trip to Pakistan during the years when travel by Americans was banned.
If it’s one of the above, and the rest are (and may well be) fairy tales, I’d sure like to know. In any event, as far as I’m concerned, he acts like he just ain’t from around here. He’s not for the home team.
Bump for later. I’m not making myself clear.
It will be interesting to see some ‘ subpoenas” issued not by, but against, Mueller
It would be better to see LE kick his door down at 5 am and hold his wife at gunpoint and go through his closets
What about the Illegal gathering of Trumps transitional emails by Muller?
He’s right.
Flynn should sue him too.
Mueller is a criminal, and so is Rosenstein and their buddy Comey.
Freudian keystroke there.
Valid question. At some point, based on what the IG is, allegedly going to report, the work that Sara Carter & John Soloman have been doing, and others, it would seem that at some point, you could very well be right. Hope so. This could potentially open a can of worms that the Left, obama and his supporters don’t want opened.
If the President just did it, they’d paint him as vengeful and adolescent. And paint obama as someone that was just trying to do right by the country. This way, one of their own is going to be responsible for that.
That court was set up to go after terrorists and those that help them. But, I can guarantee you one thing, if you give law enforcement a toy, they’ll figure out a way to use it.
All depends on the judge.
great post. It’s why I like FR and some others. get insight from folks that see things from different angles.
And that’s exactly why they don’t record their interviews. they only take notes and destroy the notes after the final draft is written. Your word against an agents. Although, I think we might see that change if this thing shakes out the way, it could potentially shake out. The agency has always been more controversial than most people care to know and has had numerous scandals, that should have rocked it to the core.
But, people aren’t flag waving, zombies anymore. They tend to question things more than ever before and thanks to things like these forums, on FR, and alternative media, they can get answers. If this plays out, in the way that 4Chan, Qanon, the IG, Sara Carter, John Solomon, etc, seem to be thinking it might be going, it could get real ugly for the Famous But Incompetent.
Of course,when it gets critical, they’ll entrap some muslim, Uber driver, from Miami and say that he was going to blow up the Keystone Pipeline, trying to deflect.
People have been convinced that the people that work at agencies like the FBI and DOJ, are the epitome of integrity, truth, justice and the American way.
Simple searches on Google, will easily demonstrate that those lawyers, not all of them, are as crooked and criminal, as hell.
Wiseman being one of the worst. Now, look at what the US Attorney did in the case against the Bundy’s and it’s all there, literally in black and white.
Look at what the FBI did in Oregon, to Finicum.
BALLS! I always liked Paul Manafort. He is tough and old school. He knows what these Washington DC punks like Mueller and Comey are all about. Andrew Weissman (Mueller’s chief dirty prosecutor) too. Manafort is a stand up guy with honor...old school.
Your clarity isn’t the problem here. It is your support of Mueller and his role.
1) First you say the Mueller thing doesn’t implicate the Constitution. You should know better than that, but that tells me you probably don’t understand how the Constitution is the only authority for the feds to do anything.
2) Then you’ve got a problem finding where the Constitution authorizes a special prosecutor appointed by the President, where the Constitution expressly states that Congress has the SOLE power to impeach.
3) The lack of reasonable suspicion or probable cause, and the presence of conflict of interest - that all comes later but become moot becsue you can’t overcome those first two things.
Bump!
There is a basic constitutional problem with this “Special Prosecutor” and his role. The Constitutional problem overrides the statutory problem. The statute itself is likely to be unconstitutional.
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