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Donald Trump tests eight 30ft high walls for border with Mexico
Sky News ^ | Wednesday 27 December 2017 | By Greg Milam, US Correspondent

Posted on 12/28/2017 11:46:03 AM PST by jdsteel

They stand like surreal monuments in the California scrubland: prototypes of Donald Trump's proposed "big, beautiful" border wall between the US and Mexico.

The eight 30ft high slabs are the first tangible part of the controversial project that the US President says will help solve America's immigration problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderwall; buildthewall; california; mexico; prototypes; trump; wall
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To: COBOL2Java

As I mentioned it took them less than 2 years from conception to get an SR 71 in flight. Yes this is a bit ridiculous


61 posted on 12/28/2017 12:45:11 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: al_c

How far below ground does it go?

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Question.

In Texas along the Rio Grande how does the rain water, etc
from the Texas side get thru the wall to the Rio Grande?
Granted it doesn’t rain that much down there but.....


62 posted on 12/28/2017 12:45:18 PM PST by deport
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To: jdsteel

We already have an abundance of empirical data from which to draw. Maximum security prison perimeters and the Korean DMZ come to mind.


63 posted on 12/28/2017 12:45:29 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: jdsteel

“...But opponents of the wall say it sends a very different message. Enrique Morones ...He said: “Without a doubt, it is a wall of hate. It tells the world, ‘Do as I say, not as I do.’
“We know that the majority of the population of the United States is against the wall...”

Clearly Enrique Dumbf*ck doesn’t get the fact that the majority of OUR Country VOTED Trump in for this express reason.

You want to come here Enrique, do it legally. Or GTFO.

It’s a pretty simple concept, even in “habla espaniol”..


64 posted on 12/28/2017 12:46:19 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: chris37

Clearly you’ve never built anything there’s a lot that goes behind it before the construction starts it will happen


65 posted on 12/28/2017 12:46:37 PM PST by connyankee (#covfefe lives!)
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To: Fireone
Half of them look like precast concrete. All you need is one of these:

The other half look like steel tube. For those, or for rebar in the concrete, all you need is one of these:

And/or one of these:


66 posted on 12/28/2017 12:47:48 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: from occupied ga
That's what I was thinking. But there's no way to stop a spotter on the other side to catch and anchor a rope, given the right conditions. And they can catapault packets of drugs and other contraband or otherwise over the top as they already have been doing.

Sensors, robots and human guards would stop most of that.

That's just offhand, might think of some other things. Haven't put a whole lot of thought into it. Those darn criminals, nothing is too hard for them except honest work and abiding by the laws.

It's not the same type of situation, but those people trapped on the upper floors of I think it was WTC 2 I spent some thought trying to figure out how some could have descended from the outside safely had they had the means. Nobody including me came up with anything reasonable. Somehow there has to be a way or more than one way though.

67 posted on 12/28/2017 12:47:53 PM PST by Aliska
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To: jmaroneps37

I’ve lost all hope in Ann Coulter ever since she started snarking about it five minutes after he took the oath. I mean my God...hes gotten a lot done in the year with virtually no support the wall will be built he’s a construction guy he wants to make sure he gets what the border patrol wants/needs.


68 posted on 12/28/2017 12:49:27 PM PST by connyankee (#covfefe lives!)
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To: connyankee

Clearly you don’t know me or anything about me.

And what part of building a border wall includes rerunning the same prototype story over and over?

I’M SICK OF SEEING PROTOTYPES. MAKE THE CHOICE AND BUILD IT!


69 posted on 12/28/2017 12:49:30 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“I think tunneling will be more likely than people going a hundred miles out of their way”

Tunnels are not easy to make. They would have to be pretty long so the two ends weren’t near enough to the wall to be easily detected.


70 posted on 12/28/2017 12:50:47 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: vmpolesov

The 100,000 mules (hired people to carry dope in backpacks) do not all have boring tools. Yes, any 2nd grade army unit can blast through the wall, but we do not have a problem with military invasion on the south border. It is just ordinary criminals who can just walk over the border.


71 posted on 12/28/2017 12:51:09 PM PST by entropy12 (S30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is the REAL cheap labor express!)
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To: COBOL2Java
I like number 7. Border Patrol should be able to see who is attempting to breach the wall by whatever means. Number 8 could work, but what is the deal with the round top?

Still, they all need reverse razor wire at the top facing Mexico. It's worked in California, and that "wall" is just a double fence with a road between with lights and sensors. It cut illegal crossings by some 95% and the reason that the illegal crossings became such an issue in southeast Arizona that has nothing but a 5 foot barbed wire fence or nothing in that area.

Remember the Minutemen? I was one of them and drove I-8 from San Diego out to Tuscon and down to Tombstone to stand watch. I've seen and contrasted the differences and what has worked and what is needed.

Contrary to popular belief, we don't need such huge barriers all along the southwest. There are such large expanses of deserts that are miles and miles from the Mexican border that are too far from staging areas where the illegals can meld into. It would take an entire Army logistics division to get them across that wasteland. Look on a map.

That said, there are areas in eastern Arizona and parts of New Mexico that need such barriers in certain areas. The main problem is Texas. Because they have Mexican towns so close all along their border, that's where we should build first.

72 posted on 12/28/2017 12:51:18 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Tunneling under a wall is far more expensive than just walking over the non-existent border wall.


73 posted on 12/28/2017 12:52:50 PM PST by entropy12 (S30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is the REAL cheap labor express!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Which is why we need one of these.

74 posted on 12/28/2017 12:54:28 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: chris37

A wise manager verifies that a design meets customer demands before going into production.
A poor manager finds the lowest bidder, sets an unrealistic time frame and then gets a promotion once its done independent of if it works or not.

Functional test is first and then they will look at cost reduction but that should take a couple weeks with reviews and bids.

I understand your frustration but engineering a quality product takes a bit of time.


75 posted on 12/28/2017 12:55:17 PM PST by Zathras
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To: chris37

Calm Down. You are attacking people with no reason.

The President of the United States has a schedule with his Cabinet and Congress.

This is something you need to understand.

He wants that wall and you know it.


76 posted on 12/28/2017 12:55:31 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: jdsteel

A thought occurred to me: Will Mexican drug cartels send snipers to prevent the wall from being built? A few dead construction workers and no one will want to work there...


77 posted on 12/28/2017 12:57:35 PM PST by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Zathras

Then use the plan that was submitted by an engineer.

I'm not interested in excuses.

78 posted on 12/28/2017 12:57:47 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

Then defend them.


79 posted on 12/28/2017 12:58:22 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: eyedigress

I am calm.

I am tired of people defending this rerun news of no progress.


80 posted on 12/28/2017 12:59:04 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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