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There are a few tax calculators out there and first reviews are pretty positive. Who cares what the Democrats think? Let them run on higher taxes and bigger government in 2018.
1 posted on 12/24/2017 10:23:31 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Democrats will run on raising taxes, gun control, pro illegal immigrant policies and letting in more rapist muslims.

What could go wrong?


2 posted on 12/24/2017 10:30:54 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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I think the DEMs know damn well what the tax cuts will do for most Americans. But if there is a way for a political party with the help of Soros and the MSM to talk the country into a recession, the DEMs will attempt it.


3 posted on 12/24/2017 10:33:49 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Stand by for heart-wrenching commercials with a concerned-faced spokeswoman pleading with you that the tax cuts mean no holistic art projects for indigenous peoples. NONE!


4 posted on 12/24/2017 10:34:43 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Do not accept the lie that the tax cut is unpopular.


5 posted on 12/24/2017 10:48:45 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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6 posted on 12/24/2017 10:55:21 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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When the average Joe ends up with a couple of thousand dollars more of take home pay, try explain to him that he is looting the treasury and needs to give it back and pay more.
Run on that, rats.


7 posted on 12/24/2017 10:55:28 PM PST by bobo1 (Truth has but only one voice.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
A number of liberals have claimed that the passage of “unpopular” tax reform is historically analogous to the passage of Obamacare, which triggered the loss of hundreds of Democrat seats and, perhaps, control of the presidency.

They have a good analogy: The democrats said we had to buy insurance we don't want and that we would have to lose our doctor and our old insurance, even though we liked them. They suffered at the polls because no one liked that punishment. Now the republicans are saying we have to keep our own money and spend the money we earned however we want. What voter likes to hear that?

8 posted on 12/24/2017 10:56:17 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Democrats are fooling themselves about how the tax cut will play out on everything

Fixed. The Democrats, including their lackeys in Hollywood and the Liberal Media, are in a continuous delusional state.

9 posted on 12/24/2017 11:07:08 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

During good times, Democrats fool themselves.

During bad times, Democrats fool a voting majority.


12 posted on 12/25/2017 1:24:44 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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I hear these analysts on TV scoff at “only a couple of hundred dollars a month” tax break for working families. Clearly they’ve never had to pawn something to buy gas to get to work. They have no conception that a couple hundred a month is a lot if you are barely getting by paycheck to paycheck.


13 posted on 12/25/2017 1:42:01 AM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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The democrats are terrified of parting with even one dime of YOUR money.


15 posted on 12/25/2017 2:43:15 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

They are not kidding themselves - they are just brazenly trying to to mislead as many others as they can, to minimize the political impact.

They spin full time, and explicitly, consciously, disregard objective truth - their only concern is to manipulate opinion as much as possible to favor their political power.

Even if they can only shave one percent off of the polls, it is their job to work it full time. Full time liars - utterly shameless.


18 posted on 12/25/2017 3:47:21 AM PST by BeauBo
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Harsanyi meant to write “fouling.”


19 posted on 12/25/2017 3:51:10 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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They want to run on “We’ll impeach him and raise your taxes” let’s hope they do.


20 posted on 12/25/2017 5:11:32 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism us truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Global elites love plutocracy as long as they get to stay in power and continue milking the little people.


21 posted on 12/25/2017 5:16:42 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I expect the commercial tax preparers will all have calculators that will take the 2017 return information and show what 2018 would be on an apples-to-apples basis. 80% of the taxpayers will receive the good news and there will be a massive tide shift. The RATs are stuck on stupid. They forgot the First Rule of Holes.


22 posted on 12/25/2017 5:30:39 AM PST by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

In February, the new withholding tables associated with the tax cuts take effect. It will be the effect of those withholding tables - i.e., A BIG RAISE, for most people (except FReepers, apparently, from what I read here) that will determine the political success or failure of the tax cuts for Trump - at least regarding the 2018 Midterms. A few things to watch for regarding the withholding tables:

1) The higher, pre-tax cut withholding will be in place in January (in other words, overwithholding, for most people, except FReepers). Therefore, starting in February, the withholding will have to go down to match the new rates, and then down a bit more to compensate for January.

2) The withholding rates for the past 15 years or so, I think, were biased to over-withhold, in order to bring in money early to the government and partially mask the deficits (basically an accounting gimmick). At least that’s my recollection. I remember this being done within the discretion of the Executive Branch, and thus it could be reversed, further magnifying the apparent size of the tax cut (except for FReepers, who will pay more).

3) Expect the Dems to run to the courts to try to prevent the above to the extent possible. I’d expect them to file their case in, say, San Francisco.


23 posted on 12/25/2017 5:45:24 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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They screw the Middle Class with Obama Care and pay for it - now they think Trump will pay for it because he helped un-screw the Middle Class and a lot of others.......makes perfect sense if you live in Pelosi’s and Schumer’s heads......


24 posted on 12/25/2017 5:46:30 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

While it’s a certainty that most people will get a FEDERAL tax cut that they don’t expect because of the completely corrupt news coverage (I was going to say incompetent coverage, but these people know exactly what they’re doing), here’s a topic that’s received little discussion: STATE taxes.

I believe that most states that have an income tax base their residents’ tax calculation on Federal Taxable Income. Assuming that to be true, state treasuries should do very well. Almost every example I’ve run, including the examples where a couple owes more federal tax, has the Federal Taxable Income higher after this bill.

But if Federal Taxable Income is generally higher, States will collect more taxes. This is especially true in the blue states because their SALT deductions are generally higher than in red states and they lose those deductions.

If red state legislators figure this out, they’ll start cutting their tax rates just like the Congress just did. Meanwhile, the blue states are likely to just sit back and rake in the money. This could get interesting.


28 posted on 12/25/2017 3:03:25 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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