which is a Lab and which is a 'pitbull'?
Posted on 12/24/2017 4:18:54 PM PST by familyop
A woman was killed and her husband seriously injured after a vicious mauling by two pit bulls on Christmas Eve in a Kentucky coal town. Investigators said the husband managed to shoot the dogs afterwards, killing one of them...a caller had reported his brother and sister-in-law were attacked by two of their neighbor’s dogs, WLEX-TV reported.
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Even sadder to say how many believe as you do - traits of aggression have been bred into them.
If that’s the way you judge people, I guess I would have to say you just went down a few notches in my opinion.
And I don’t even know you.
It’s a matter of befiending people you respect and with whom you have common interests. And my comment rests with knowledge and reality. I’ve worked with people that seemed pretty level headed until I found out they owned a pit bull. It impacts my opinion of their reasonableness, similar to finding out they are a recreational marijuana user. The latter happened with a friend that was a manager at Microsoft.
I don’t know about that but I had to face down two pit bulls one time and one another time. I did have my trusty 9mm with me and while I didn’t have to fire it, I had it available.
The. video I referenced is in post 70 Looks like a young lab mix. I’m not disputing anything you say. Dogs are pack animals, and can be dangerous. Duh. Don”t presume to lecture me on the breed.
Not all dogs are rotts or pit bulls, though. So there’s nothing obviously wrong with having multiple dogs.
They’re the only breed that grabs & shakes without opening the jaw
My 6 pound Maltese/ Yorkie cross is a grabber / shaker but does let go...
She can sling a chew toy clear across the room
I sure don’t trust them though I have been around them in the past and none of those dogs ever attacked the owners or anyone else.
But that was 30 years ago and these attacks seem to be getting epidemic on scale. A good safety rule might be...
If you Pit, you must Pack.
“They’re the only breed that grabs & shakes without opening the jaw,”
Friend of mine recently adopted a pit bull mix from the animal shelter (i drove him to the shelter to help him take the dog home). The sweetest dog one could ever have. Licked my face like crazy around a dozen times on the first day we met. Does the same to other people. Never bites.
Yet your description is accurate. One of the dogs favorite games is tug of war. He’ll walk up to you with one of his toys firmly clamped in his jaw, expecting you to grab the other end of the toy, and the game is on. He’ll shake his head wildly without opening his jaw, firmly trying to get you to release your grip. Once you have let go, he’ll approach you again with the toy with the expectation for you to grab the other end of the toy. His jaws are quite strong and he never fails to win tug of war as he makes me release my grip.
I’ve worked a lot of dogs doing bitework, their tails are almost always wagging! Because they like doing it.
Trust me people, it’s not all NATURE, most of it is NURTURE. Every dog has an individual personality, every responsible owner has to understand that personality and DEAL with it.
Having some experience with a stray pit bull (American Staffordshire Terrier) that "adopted" us, as well as a few other instances (esp. one former neighbor's dog) I mostly agree with that, but, problem is, I don't think 10 % of owners can handle these dogs in all circumstances. Including myself.
As I’ve posted many times on FR.
After a news report identifying a dog involved in an attack as a “pit bull”
and after seeing a grainy photo of the dead dog in the news report,
I called San Antonio Texas and spoke directly with the animal control officer who had seen the dog
and she told me in no uncertain terms that the dog was not a ‘pit bull’ but rather appeared to be a Lab.
At that time, I thought dogsbite.org was a reputable organization
that was truly desirous of compiling an accurate database of dog attacks.
I contacted them with this info and the contact number of the AC officer in San Antonio so they could verify the info.
I never received a reply.
I contacted them again, thinking perhaps it was an oversight, but again with the same result.
To this day that dog is still identified by dogsbite.org as a ‘pit bull’.
They are not honest investigators.
They knowingly lie to support what I came to realize was a partisan vendetta against ‘pitbulls’.
They are the dog version of the SPLC.
They use Clifton Merrit as a source for much of their ‘statistics’.
Clinton Merrit does no independent verification, such as I did with the San Antonio report, but relies solely on newspaper reports.
If you use them as source, it indicates you either don’t know their true nature
or you do know and approve of any means necessary to justify your hateful stigmatizing of millions of dogs.
Have a Nice Day
I have no issue with accepting the fact that there are some particular individual dogs that could be labeled ‘vicious’
nor with the fact that there are some irresponsible owners of dogs.
What irritates me is fanatic fools that post idiotic things on FR like...
“Eradicate the dogs of peace”
or
“Every pit bull owner is a criminal.”
or
“The only good pit bull owner is a ....”*
Instead of advocating for Responsible Dog Ownership and effective animal control laws, rigorously applied, as do Freedom-loving Individualists.
They act like a bunch of leftard SJWs out to force people to conform to their narrow-minded, over-simplified prejudices.**
Have a Nice Day
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* Actual FR posts.
** “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.
It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated;
but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
~C.S. Lewis
We don’t know what method was used to identify the dog. We don’t know if they used DNA or a vet or someone with more training than your animal control person. There have been an unfortunate number of veterinarians, police officers, SPCA staff, pit bull owners/apologists and others in official positions who advocate for these animals, even if it means lying, because they feel strongly about breed specific laws or they love their own pits and can’t believe other could harm. One person’s account, without access to impartial information, is just an unverified/likely biased rumor.
Dogsbite.org is an excellent source of info.
The woman I spoke with was the Animal Control Officer that dealt with and saw the dog in question.
I did an investigation by verifying with a professional that had seen the dog with her own eyes.
Dogsbite.org did NO investigation but only repeated a newspaper account and REFUSED to change their account when presented with the facts.
Dogsbite.org is NOT an excellent source of info.
...and yet you choose to believe them and their newspaper based account rather than a professional eye-witness. /smh
Have a Nice Day
which is a Lab and which is a 'pitbull'?
We’ve talked about this before. I pointed out that we don’t know how many people viewed the animal, what their relative levels of training was, if DNA tests were used, if prior info as to breed was available, what the sympathies of the “professional” in question were. You repeatedly state that this person must be believed despite lack of evidence or that her opinion is in fact evidence without viewing all other evidence. Given your absent standards for “fact”, I’m puzzled why you assert that Dogsbite.org MUST be wrong. We just can’t agree on this.
If playing games reduced the gory body count, I’d play. I just got done (yesterday) looking at traumatic photos of victims of pit bulls (man with lower face gone, etc.). Pits kill, in horrific manner, more people than all other dogs combined. Period.
“Wanna guard dog, try a German Shepard. Invariably trainable and almost always behaviorally controllable.”
The low life pit owners don’t want pit bulls just for guard dogs. They value them most for the ability to instill fear and intimidate people. They think they’re edgy, like their tattoos. The owners know that with pit bulls interpersonal skills and quality of character aren’t required to gain respect. Many pit bull owners likely have them just to compensate for their crappy public behavior.
Not where I live. Any idea why?
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