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To: Leaning Right
I stand corrected, he did indeed have the girl put her hands up, and she successfully maneuvered herself to them. Now when it came to him, he did allow him to crawl on all fours.

Here is the video

Some seem to think I am arguing for this policeman, even though I specifically said that he does not need to be in law enforcement ( My original post #31), in the Chicago Tribune article (see link above with video) that was posted yesterday. Additionally I stated my utter surprise that the jury acquitted him, rightly or wrongly. What I did say is that I wasn't present in the court room, nor was I on the jury to determine how they came to their verdict. That perhaps something came out in the trial that is not being reported on. After all, the press is famous for leaving out critical information if it does not support the agenda they are pushing.

Bottom line though is that the jury did acquit him. The only conclusion I can come to for that finding, was his move towards his waistband.

57 posted on 12/10/2017 8:18:34 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

“The only conclusion I can come to for that finding, was his move towards his waistband. “

So now a move towards a waistband (sounds so sinister doesnt it?) carries the death penalty? Jesus I am forever hiking up my jeans due to beer belly pushing them down. Hope I’m never pulled over for a burned out tail light.

Todays coppers are absolutely paranoid homicidal maniacs and we are very poorly served by the politicians.

PS I was a revolver cop in suburban Chicago in the 70’s.


68 posted on 12/10/2017 8:27:36 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: Robert DeLong

> Bottom line though is that the jury did acquit him. The only conclusion I can come to for that finding, was his move towards his waistband. <

That was my conclusion as well. But I have read elsewhere that the jury was not allowed to see that video (why not?).


69 posted on 12/10/2017 8:30:11 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Robert DeLong
So, I'm not as stupid as the man this "officer" shot dead then, in your esteemed opinion? Odd, I don't seem to have received an apology.
78 posted on 12/10/2017 8:40:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Robert DeLong

I look at it this way:

Suppose 5 friends and I see a man acting erratically. Being all armed, the 6 of us pull our guns and order him to the ground. He starts crying and trying to say he did nothing, but we order him to cross his legs and crawl to us. Part way there, he makes a movement with one hand toward his hip and I shoot him 5 times, killing him. I tell folks, “I was in fear of my life”. And it turns out the dead man was unarmed.

I’m thinking, first degree murder. Something about disparity of force and who was REALLY in danger.

Cops go into dangerous situations to support life, liberty and a safe society. And I understand they need to have some belief that they can survive a career. I understand our courts are based on the idea it is better for a guilty man to go free than for government to take the liberty of an innocent man.

But in this case, government took the LIFE of an innocent man. We KNOW he wasn’t reaching for a gun and trying to kill the cop because he had no gun to reach for. Given the cop is facing that situation to defend law and order, I’m not sure 1st degree murder really fits. Second degree, beyond a reasonable doubt? Maybe, maybe not.

But SOMETHING ought to happen when the government takes the life of an innocent man. SOMETHING! If it is repulsive to society to send an innocent man to prison, how much more to kill him in a hotel hallway!


91 posted on 12/10/2017 9:02:42 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Robert DeLong
What I did say is that I wasn't present in the court room, nor was I on the jury to determine how they came to their verdict.

No need to be in the court room. Bottom line in a nutshell the cop said he feared for his life so he opened up on the suspect when he moved his arm back to his rear. The jury can not prove the cop wrong and took his word for it. The cop walks.

94 posted on 12/10/2017 9:08:36 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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