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To: Freedom56v2

Have been listening to some of the fire fighters saying it’s been years since any ‘controlled’ fires burned out all the growth in many areas. Where once they could burn out areas the environmentalists have often fought against these burns.


103 posted on 12/07/2017 2:06:24 AM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: caww

I have heard talk about this as well.


108 posted on 12/07/2017 6:44:43 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: caww

I hope the President and all other conservatives point out that this fire is courtesy of the EPA with, if there is evidence, the assistance of the occupying army


109 posted on 12/07/2017 6:47:12 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: caww; Liz; Mariner; Jim Robinson; John Robinson; DoughtyOne; editor-surveyor

“Have been listening to some of the fire fighters saying it’s been years since any ‘controlled’ fires burned out all the growth in many areas. Where once they could burn out areas the environmentalists have often fought against these burns.”

That has been going on for decades on the West Coast. The enviro terrorists have been banning controlled burns for decades. Riverbanks, that I used fish from shore, a decade ago are filled in with dead brush, live brush and sometime not so friendly critters from the rivers’s edges back a 100 yards or more.

The lack of brush clearing/burning is bad enough.

However, the eco terrorists have introduced a new weapon against us.

Farmers and ranchers to plow or bulldoze the brush/weeds from the roads sides into their land for 50 to 100’ plus.

After our recent fires that burned up to hiways and often jumped over the roads, it was obvious that the ranchers and farmers had not been making those fire breaks on their side of the fences by roads and hiways.

During our recent fires up north, I posted that my wife were not seeing the fire breaks the farmers and ranchers used to make.

Mariner posted the following. This is what set up these terrible fires from the Oregon Border to the Mexican border:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/epa-waterways-wetlands-rule-118319

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Water_Rule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernal_pool

Nearly every acre of land from San Francisco to Eureka has a tributary stream (even if dry in summer) and vernal pools. EPA claimed jurisdiction over all of it in 2015 and said farmers, ranchers...anyone...could not cut anything within 100 feet of these “protected waters”.

The CA EPA supports and enforces these rules stridently.

Underbrush and grasses exploded.

Then they exploded in fire.

That’s the root cause of this horrible tragedy.

66 posted on 10/14/2017, 9:45:00 AM by Mariner (War Criminal #18)


113 posted on 12/07/2017 8:40:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep the illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP!!)
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To: caww

Thanks for sharing the chatter of the firefighters. Having river rafted in Idaho after one of the conflagrations, I’ve seen the forests unable to recover at all for probably a century. The thought of those poor wild animals incinerated because they can’t outrun the fire is the worst part. Human beings have some ability to save themselves. I hope Trump’s EPA will reverse the methodical destruction of the great Western United States.


124 posted on 12/07/2017 1:17:37 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education and the forests)
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