Get Government out of the Welfare Business

Mises Institute ^ | 12/5/17 | Lee Friday

[ridesthemiles]

Under Obama, HUD could NOT supply receipts for over 42% of their entire budget. It must be cleaned up. Many recipients were handed ‘emergency cash’, and there is no accounting records of where that money went or who got it or for what.

Inspector General for HUD is beyond frustrated, as the employees there are not co=-operating.

[ridesthemiles]

Government out of the student loan business, also.

[NorthMountain]

Nice rant, DP, complete with threats of violence.

I notice the question went unanswered.

Was it worth while to institute a vast bureaucracy to take take care of a case like yours, when the result is grave harm to a both the whole people and our government?

I answer that it was not and is not. Private organizations did a much better job of aiding the indigent, before Big Government shoved them to the side with its hack job. Unlike Big Government, they did not create a multi-generation parasite class or a mentality of entitlement.

[dp0622]

I apologize to all for that terrible post I made.

There is no excuse for it but mom DID tough it out.

Taking care of a sick husband and five kids while taking 18 credits in nursing school is TOUGHING IT OUT.

I submit this: how much would it have cost had she just stayed on welfare and then we did, for the net 50 years?

And maybe you, NorthMountain, have friends with the kind of money to carry a family’s mortgage and food and electric and you may have a CHURCH with such riches. We did not.

She could have gotten a job at kmart instead, but that would have been incredibly short sighted.

Making 6 an hour at the time instead of 50,000 a year only a few years later.

I apologize again to all, especially northmountain for my post. It was outrageous.

But I stand by the need or a program for such life emergencies.

Are you going to cash your SS checks or are you already?

I know you paid into it, but if ever there was a bloated bureaucracy, that’s it and as a protest you could rescind taking what is essentially a socialist payout program.

How about medicare?

How about the military admitting losing FIVE TRILLION over the years in a statement last year. How do you LOSE five trillion.

IS IT WORTH IT HAVING A MILITARY THAT CAN LOSE FIVE TRILLION?!?!?!!

Yes. It just needs a real president and real management.

Again, I sincerely apologize for an uncalled for post and I respect and enjoy your posts very much.

[Mears]

You owe NO ONE an explanation—————your Mom coped with a very tough situation,and she made it.

Good for her.

She has every right to hold her head up high-——and she has a family that loves and respects her. That’s what matters,not what is posted on the internet.

[Bonemaker]

You said or did nothing wrong. No need for apologies. If one is in a jam one takes whatever one can get....like all the rest of us.

[NorthMountain]

I submit this: how much would it have cost had she just stayed on welfare and then we did, for the net 50 years?

I cast no aspersions, personally, on anyone in your family. I understand that some folks will at times need a hand. Been there, done that, don't ask.

Are you going to cash your SS checks or are you already?

I have repeatedly called for Medicare and Social Security to be abolished. I call for that right now. I will continue to do so in the future. Those programs are absolutely highway robbery.

So are the other "welfare" programs. The whole ruddy lot should be abolished. Prior to the government getting involved and screwing it up, private organizations both religious and secular did a much better job of helping those who were then called the "deserving poor". What that system did NOT produce was generation after generation of people utterly dependent on "benefits", who feel entitled to the fruits of others' labor, with no obligation to better themselves. What that system did NOT produce was a bloated government that saw no limits on its size, scope, and power. Government run assistance to the poor has produced both, with no end in sight. The fact that you personally benefited from a system which is, as a whole, evil does not negate the fact that the system is evil.

I stand by the need or a program for such life emergencies.

I agree. I utterly REJECT the idea that government at any level should be involved in it.

how much would it have cost had she just stayed on welfare and then we did, for the net 50 years?

You're asking the wrong question. The right question is: what would it have cost if millions of people stayed on welfare for generation after generation? We know the answer to that: Nearly 20 TRILLION dollars of Federal Debt, with currently over 200 TRILLION dollars of unfunded liabilities, and no end in sight. Allowing the government to take over the provision of poverty assistance and retirement income is right now destroying these United States.

IS IT WORTH IT HAVING A MILITARY THAT CAN LOSE FIVE TRILLION?!?!?!!

Better than not having one at all ... And no, I don't condone financial misconduct in DOD. It's just small potatoes compared to welfare/SS/Medicare. Let the numbers speak for themselves:

[NorthMountain]

See #27 above.

[dp0622]

Very pertinent points. My mother was the exception who used it to better herself and save her family. The norm is to stay on it forever. I stand corrected. And I apologize once again. Just very protective of mom :-)