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To: dp0622
I submit this: how much would it have cost had she just stayed on welfare and then we did, for the net 50 years?

I cast no aspersions, personally, on anyone in your family. I understand that some folks will at times need a hand. Been there, done that, don't ask.

Are you going to cash your SS checks or are you already?

I have repeatedly called for Medicare and Social Security to be abolished. I call for that right now. I will continue to do so in the future. Those programs are absolutely highway robbery.

So are the other "welfare" programs. The whole ruddy lot should be abolished. Prior to the government getting involved and screwing it up, private organizations both religious and secular did a much better job of helping those who were then called the "deserving poor". What that system did NOT produce was generation after generation of people utterly dependent on "benefits", who feel entitled to the fruits of others' labor, with no obligation to better themselves. What that system did NOT produce was a bloated government that saw no limits on its size, scope, and power. Government run assistance to the poor has produced both, with no end in sight. The fact that you personally benefited from a system which is, as a whole, evil does not negate the fact that the system is evil.

I stand by the need or a program for such life emergencies.

I agree. I utterly REJECT the idea that government at any level should be involved in it.

how much would it have cost had she just stayed on welfare and then we did, for the net 50 years?

You're asking the wrong question. The right question is: what would it have cost if millions of people stayed on welfare for generation after generation? We know the answer to that: Nearly 20 TRILLION dollars of Federal Debt, with currently over 200 TRILLION dollars of unfunded liabilities, and no end in sight. Allowing the government to take over the provision of poverty assistance and retirement income is right now destroying these United States.

IS IT WORTH IT HAVING A MILITARY THAT CAN LOSE FIVE TRILLION?!?!?!!

Better than not having one at all ... And no, I don't condone financial misconduct in DOD. It's just small potatoes compared to welfare/SS/Medicare. Let the numbers speak for themselves:


27 posted on 12/06/2017 8:11:58 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SandwicheGuy; Bonemaker; Jim Robinson; nickcarraway; 2ndDivisionVet; Mears

See #27 above.


28 posted on 12/06/2017 8:16:38 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Very pertinent points. My mother was the exception who used it to better herself and save her family. The norm is to stay on it forever. I stand corrected. And I apologize once again. Just very protective of mom :-)


29 posted on 12/07/2017 4:15:24 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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