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A Land of Mini-Coups
Steyn On-line ^ | December 4, 2017 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/04/2017 11:45:50 AM PST by Twotone

Following Michael Flynn's guilty plea for "lying to the FBI", there seem likely to be further feverish developments in Robert Mueller's "Russia investigation". Professor William Jacobson asks the obvious question:

Why is Robert Mueller even investigating the presidential transition?

The Order appointing Mueller concerns election interference, not post-election political decisions of the winning candidate.

Indeed. First, it shouldn't be a crime to lie to the FBI given the way the FBI lies to us with impunity. Yours truly thirteen years ago:

Martha, it seems, will be going to jail for telling a lie. Not in court, not under oath, not perjury, but merely when the Feds came round to see her about a possible crime. They couldn't prove she'd committed a crime, so they nailed her for lying while chit-chatting to them about the non-crime. And for that they're prepared to destroy her company.

It's true that it's an offence to lie to the Feds. But, as my New Hampshire neighbours Tom and Scott, currently in my basement stretching out a little light carpentry job to the end of the winter, are the first to point out, the Feds lied to the public about Waco and Ruby Ridge (another bloodbath) for years. If the Feds can lie to the people, why can't the people lie to the Feds?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fbi; marksteyn; michaelflynn

1 posted on 12/04/2017 11:45:50 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

The bottom line is that the FBI has become a political formation that goes after legitimate opposition of those who have seized our government.
This makes them basically the same as the SS. A mere political formation everyone should avoid.

F-troop


2 posted on 12/04/2017 11:50:11 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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To: Twotone

The bottom line is that the FBI has become a political formation that goes after legitimate opposition of those who have seized our government.
This makes them basically the same as the SS. A mere political formation everyone should avoid.

F-troop


3 posted on 12/04/2017 11:50:13 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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To: Twotone

First, it shouldn’t be a crime to lie to the FBI given the way the FBI lies to us with impunity.
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Amen!


4 posted on 12/04/2017 11:50:35 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Twotone

Why talk to the FBI? Just don’t. What did Flynn have to gain by talking? Say what you want about any LEO but the one thing we should all agree on is that they are experts at setting people up to lie and then catching them lie. Never talk.


5 posted on 12/04/2017 11:53:20 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

That’s the only solution.


6 posted on 12/04/2017 11:56:54 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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To: Twotone
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kinds of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted—and you create a nation of lawbreakers—and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
- From "Atlas Shrugged"
7 posted on 12/04/2017 12:04:19 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Twotone

One more data point backing the “I want my lawyer” mantra when talking to police.
Their job is to find _something_ to nail _anyone_ with. The topic may be, say, pre-election activities, but if the discussion wanders to, say, post-election activities then you might just get nailed to the wall for saying anything technically actionable. You need someone well-paid to tell you “that’s not relevant to the discussion, shut up already.”


8 posted on 12/04/2017 12:08:13 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: DesertRhino; HarleyLady27; LS; Liz; radu; MinuteGal; LUV W; ZULU; left that other site; ...

Do all these political vermin think the millions of Americans who voted for and support President Trump will just slink away and say “oh well?” The answer is HELL NO!!!


9 posted on 12/04/2017 12:25:49 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: DesertRhino

The bottom line is that the FBI has become a political formation that goes after legitimate opposition of those who have seized our government.
This makes them basically the same as the SS. A mere political formation everyone should avoid.

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Just like the IRS and the EPA and the other branches that attack our citizens for political gain.


10 posted on 12/04/2017 12:28:29 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Twotone

First, it shouldn’t be a crime to lie to the FBI given the way the FBI lies to us with impunity.

Quote for Truth!


11 posted on 12/04/2017 1:19:08 PM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I find this a bit amazing. Those who scream the loudest for Trump to be taken down will be the first to die at the hands of his soldiers if he is removed from office. Do they not realize this simple truth? Are they genuinely willing to be sacrificed to the great god of leftism?
The motivation of those who oppose Trump is the clear understanding that they will be exposed as traitors and criminals if he remains in office.
There are nearly 2000 sealed indictments waiting for adjudication in the DC environs. How many, do you suppose, are for people who hate Trump? Can you say, “All of them?”


12 posted on 12/04/2017 1:37:39 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

No need to lie, just request to speak to your attorney. Then don’t say another word.


13 posted on 12/04/2017 1:42:49 PM PST by shotgun
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To: FreedomNotSafety

That’s right. There was even opinion printed prior that he was walking into a perjury trap. WTF, maybe its better because the stupidity and arrogance is appalling.

If I ever have to meet up with the FBI it’s going be: “would you like a glass of water”, with me responding “Lawyer”.


14 posted on 12/04/2017 1:51:39 PM PST by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Why talk to the FBI? Just don’t.

Dunno where I read it, but the FBI called in a guy for a deposition. He brought a tape recorder with him. When asked why, he said that anything said to the FBI steno was considered Holy Writ, and if a statement made later on in court didn't jibe EXACTLY with the FBI's account, he was toast.

They told him he couldn't turn the recorder on. He said he wouldn't talk without the conversation being taped. They cancelled the interview.

15 posted on 12/04/2017 2:24:42 PM PST by Oatka
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To: Twotone

Obozo the jug eared assclown picked the last minute fight with the Russians for no other reason than to set up Trump and his incoming people.


16 posted on 12/04/2017 3:29:39 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Proud member of Trump's army of online trolls)
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To: Twotone

Bump.....


17 posted on 12/04/2017 9:03:17 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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