Posted on 11/27/2017 12:47:57 PM PST by fwdude
This week marks the fifth anniversary of Colorado's legalization of the commercial marijuana trade, and the reviews aren't good.
An editorial in the Colorado Springs Gazette reports, "Five years of retail pot coincide with five years of a homelessness growth rate that ranks among the highest rates in the country. Directors of homeless shelters, and people who live on the streets, tell us homeless substance abusers migrate here for easy access to pot."
The paper says, "Five years of Big Marijuana ushered in a doubling in the number of drivers involved in fatal crashes who tested positive for marijuana, based on research by the pro-legalization Denver Post. Five years of commercial pot have been five years of more marijuana in schools than teachers and administrators ever feared."
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It's not from pot. That came from communist/leftist politicians in Sacramento.
I don't even know what state you're in, but I'll bet the productivity and economic numbers in CA are higher than your state or any state in the U.S., by a series of magnitudes.
Not a reasonable statement. We have no idea what would happen to society if pot usage was on the level of alcohol usage.
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True. And I addressed that point in post 69.
In general, nobody switches from harder drugs to MJ.
Very true. And the same can be said about alcohol. The age restrictions, the legal BAC rules, the other laws, taxes, do's and don'ts make alcohol very restrictive.
Not to mention the massive, unaccountable bureaucracies created to apply the law and monitor compliance. It is big government writ large.
And that’s what blows my mind the most about idiot libertarians wanting dope legalized.
They claim to be for less government, yet they praise the “positive” aspects of legalizing it.
Like the taxes it bring in. Are they that stoned to the bone and “forgot” that more taxes leads to more spending which leads to bigger government?
Libertarians.
(hock ptui)
Rocky Mountain High ping.
“Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol. If you support the legalized sale of alcohol, libertarian or not, you have no grounds to criminalize marijuana. “
The problem I’ve had with all of it is the enormous cost to us for the so-called “war on drugs.” Government should butt out of the crazy, unlawful raids and such where innocent people die, and they should also be out of the “help” business for people who abuse either alcohol or drugs. That will leave us folks with having to deal with whatever transpires as a result, but all of it has been a huge waste of effort apart from what is done to stop the entry of hard drugs into this country. People who abuse drugs and alcohol should be on their own, because only then will they come to the realization of how tragic these two intoxicants are.
I deal with “the homeless” here in CA in connection with commercial property. It is a huge problem, but in watching people on security cameras for the best part of a year, I have only seen one instance where it appeared that drugs were being used, and it wasn’t MJ, it was “injectables!” And I can also say that the people we have the cops remove are nearly all white, young, and well-dressed for the most part. We have had to eliminate outside electrical outlets because they are used to charge up personal electronics, and now with winter arriving, electric blankets. They appear to just be a bunch of aimless people wandering around with backpacks.
dude, this is all lies made up by the media complex in conjunction with big tobacco, big pharma, big snackfood to harsh my mellow..
So tell me, have you ever attended a lecture on the true medical uses for MJ? Well we have, and this is the piece that's never discussed. There are medically helpful uses for several of the constituents present in Cannabis. Drugs that are instrumental in helping people with such diseases as Multiple Sclerosis. And none of these uses is brought about by smoking a joint. The “medical marijuana ruse” here in CA is just that. A bunch of pothead liberal doctors passing out “permits” for people to use to get high. That's not what I'm talking about. It's long past time to look at cannabis for what it can do for pain management quite apart from the “recreational use of it.”
So? My experience with wealth and eccentricity is that the one usually begats the other. California is nuts precisely because it has so much wealth.
The Slave owning South also had a higher per capita income. It didn't make them smarter or better.
I saw that you did, so please disregard my previous point.
Now this is a respectable position. However, when it comes to internationally based drug organizations that smuggled product in from foreign countries, it becomes an issue of national significance, and therefore a Federal issue.
Also, one can make a fair argument based on the history of China between 1840 and 1960 that drugs constitute an existential threat to our society and to our government.
But a lot of people get started on MJ, and then go on to pursue harder drugs.
Once you accept that it is okay to get "high", then you have opened the door to do so using other methods.
Never mind the facts, CO people are sticking with the marijuana no matter what!
Fair enough. But before you tip the scale on that side, you have to balance it by what it cost China to NOT have a war on drugs.
China lost at least 100 million people from the consequences of out of control Opium addiction. All the disaster that befell China with their civil war, and the Japanese occupation, the rapes, the murders, the poverty, all of that can be laid at the feet of the legalization of Drugs after the Opium war in 1842.
Legalized drugs effectively killed China. They are only now recovering from the effects of their loss of population and the consequences of their communist dictator.
Believe me, the piddly costs of our drug war pale in comparison to what we would be losing from not having one.
My pot days are well past me, but all it did then was make me want to have sex with my wife, and then watch stupid sitcoms until I fell asleep.
Then the next morning I went to work as usual.
I’m thinking none of that would threaten humanity as we know it...
Many times more don't go on to pursue harder drugs.
Then the next morning I went to work as usual.
I’m thinking none of that would threaten humanity as we know it...
I have no doubt that there are some people who are functionally fine using pot. The problem creeps in with the people who are not.
Just as Indians lack the genes to create the enzymes necessary to process alcohol, so too is it likely that some people cannot appropriately process weed. I've read a lot of accounts of psychotic breaks being linked to cannabis usage.
I've known a lot of drug addicts, and they all told me that weed got them started doing drugs. They kept craving a stronger and longer high, and so they turned to other stuff.
How much of our population should we regard as expendable?
What percentage of our population should we regard as expendable?
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