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Report: Self-Driving Cars Will Have to Decide Who Dies During Crash
Breitbart Tech ^ | 11/25/17 | Charlie Nash

Posted on 11/26/2017 8:26:32 AM PST by markomalley

Self-driving cars may have to make the moral decision of who lives and who dies during a crash, according to a report.

“As you approach a rise in the road, heading south, a school bus appears, driving north, one driven by a human, and it veers sharply toward you. There is no time to stop safely, and no time for you to take control of the car,” USA Today explained. “Does the car: A. Swerve sharply into the trees, possibly killing you but possibly saving the bus and its occupants? B. Perform a sharp evasive maneuver around the bus and into the oncoming lane, possibly saving you, but sending the bus and its driver swerving into the trees, killing her and some of the children on board? C. Hit the bus, possibly killing you as well as the driver and kids on the bus?”

The moral dilemma has been heavily discussed with the advancement of self-driving vehicles.

According to USA Today, “Azim Shariff, an assistant professor of psychology and social behavior at the University of California, Irvine, co-authored a study last year that found that while respondents generally agreed that a car should, in the case of an inevitable crash, kill the fewest number of people possible regardless of whether they were passengers or people outside of the car, they were less likely to buy any car ‘in which they and their family member would be sacrificed for the greater good.'”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: automakers; ethics
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To: PIF

Yes, different set of priorities. Do some vendors get more defensive algorithms? At a cost? Do some people get to override the algorithms? Can priorities be altered by law enforcement, emergency vehicles? How is liability established? How about hackers?

Who determines if one life is worth more than another?


21 posted on 11/26/2017 9:16:12 AM PST by kdot
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To: markomalley

“According to USA Today, “Azim Shariff, an assistant professor of psychology and social behavior at the University of California”

http://amok.wikia.com/wiki/Muslim_mass_shooters_are_perceived_as_less_mentally_ill_and_more_motivated_by_religion


22 posted on 11/26/2017 9:21:18 AM PST by Vob (free radical community organizer)
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To: kdot

Consider this... As a programmer I can possibly determine where you go, potentially gain access to other vehicles around yours, and using publically available data about you and others you may associate with on a regular basis i could make a reasonable guess about your political views. Now perhaps I could alter the rule base that controls you car and bias the outcome to sacrifice the vehicle and occupants or those that do not share my political views,
Next question... As a developer am I liable for any outcomes, or as an executive of a company am I liable for allowing a bias like this to escape from the lab into the wild?
Just some food for thought.


23 posted on 11/26/2017 9:31:41 AM PST by Bitman
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To: markomalley

The answer is always to minimize the damage to the occupants of the vehicle it is controlling. The other vehicles will be doing the same; whether driven by a human or software. Buses are a specious argument. They are extremely tough. Unless knocked on their sides, there are few if any injuries in bus accidents to occupants of the bus. The driver is usually the only one at risk.


24 posted on 11/26/2017 9:38:31 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: markomalley

We have squirrels running across the road all the time. When my kids were learning to drive, I had to make it absolutely clear to them that their lives, and the lives in other cars who might happen to be on the road with them, are more important than squirrels.

Run over the squirrels, if that’s what they choose. They have a dreadful habit of waiting by the side of the road and then dashing in front of you at the last minute.


25 posted on 11/26/2017 9:39:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: suthener
"a school bus appears, driving north, one driven by a human,..."

"I think you missed that part."

BUT, he brought up a very good point.

26 posted on 11/26/2017 9:46:29 AM PST by jackibutterfly (With hilliary, we didnÂ’t dodge a bullet... we dodged a 100 megaton hydrogen bomb!!!)
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To: Cicero

Taught my children the same thing. Don’t swerve for a dog, deer, cat, squirrel, etc. and wreck the car or kill someone by hitting them. Ever.


27 posted on 11/26/2017 9:46:42 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: markomalley
"They’ll be Three Laws Safe."

"I'm glad SOMEBODY caught the reference."

I don't get it.

28 posted on 11/26/2017 9:48:17 AM PST by jackibutterfly (With hilliary, we didnÂ’t dodge a bullet... we dodged a 100 megaton hydrogen bomb!!!)
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To: Soul of the South

I’ve watched a number of documentary pieces on the technology development, and the one factor pointed out which interests me....is that weather and road conditions will over-ride the programmed handling of the car. As one guy pointed out....if the car program determines that it’s too risky because of ice or snow....it’ll pull to the side of the road and end the ride. If this were to work, I’d take a guess that 90-percent of winter accidents would have been taken out of the statistical display. The same feature could determine weather patterns and refuse to enter areas where flooding would typically occurs.


29 posted on 11/26/2017 9:54:30 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: discostu

Entropy.


30 posted on 11/26/2017 10:20:45 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: markomalley

31 posted on 11/26/2017 10:23:15 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: markomalley

Michael Hastings sure found that out!


32 posted on 11/26/2017 10:27:31 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: pepsionice

....it’ll pull to the side of the road and end the ride. If this were to work, I’d take a guess that 90-percent of winter accidents would have been taken out of the statistical display. The same feature could determine weather patterns and refuse to enter areas where flooding would typically occurs.

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However the stats for people dying frozen in their cars and people dying while walking on the side of the road, as well as people mugged by ferals increases exponentially


33 posted on 11/26/2017 10:31:14 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: markomalley

Has anyone yet stopped to ask why we need driverless cars? Okay, why do we need them?


34 posted on 11/26/2017 10:33:20 AM PST by DPMD
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To: Hugh the Scot

Meaningless.


35 posted on 11/26/2017 10:35:43 AM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: markomalley

If Hellary becomes POTUS, everyone who didn’t vote for her will be placed in the cars’ data causing a huge increase in Hastingscides.


36 posted on 11/26/2017 10:38:05 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: DPMD

This is America, it’s not about what we need it’s about what we WANT. And we have old people, people with long commutes, and people that just don’t enjoy driving that WANT this. Also cab companies, messenger companies, delivery companies, and trucking companies that think it’s a pretty sexy idea too.


37 posted on 11/26/2017 10:40:38 AM PST by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: markomalley
Time for me to hack my car's control computer so that it knows the President, the Pope, the Dali Lama, the Queen of England and a choir of 600 children are riding with me.

And especially Elon Musk. He's in my car too.

38 posted on 11/26/2017 10:41:06 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: markomalley

39 posted on 11/26/2017 10:44:14 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: All

I want a self driving car that does not depend on google or gps map software or outside sources to know how to drive.

self driving is self driving.

google dependent is NOT self driving.


40 posted on 11/26/2017 10:46:38 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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