Posted on 11/24/2017 7:39:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Before this month, Roy Moore was best known nationally for refusing to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama state supreme-court building. Now, the aspiring senator is accused of hitting on teens at an Alabama mall and inappropriately touching a 14-year-old girl.
These allegations may be the end of Moore. Congressional Republicans have started disowning him, and he’s tentatively dropping in state polls. But it’s possible that the reputation of evangelical Christians will also suffer. Despite condemnations from a number of nationally prominent Christian leaders and a few in Alabama, many of the state’s faithful continue to back the controversial candidate.
To outsiders, the support might seem like a stark contradiction in values. Even to insiders, it can seem that way. “I’m … bothered,” wrote William S. Brewbaker III, a law professor at the University of Alabama, in The New York Times, “by what Mr. Moore’s popularity says about the sorry state of evangelical Christianity.”
The Moore scandal is part of a long history of complicated sexual politics in the Christian world. In her new book, Moral Combat, the Washington University in St. Louis professor Marie Griffith writes about American Christians’ battles over sexual harassment, birth control, and gender roles. This fall’s wave of sexual-assault accusations has often seemed to echo the past, bringing to mind Anita Hill’s accusations about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and Paula Jones’s allegations against former President Bill Clinton. Incidents like these, Griffith writes, all get tied up in the distinctive sexual politics of the Christian world.
The book—which covers much more than sexual-harassment scandals, including everything from Margaret Sanger’s legacy at Planned Parenthood to Alfred Kinsey’s obsession with clergy—comes out in December. Our conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...
Yes, let’s all vote for a leftist creep who trashes rape victims and will vote in lockstep with Chuch U. Shumer. Good thinking, Link!
Only to those who assume he’s guilty without knowing the facts.
The only evidence presented, the yearbook note, has been thoroughly discredited in multiple ways. Everything else is just words. If I claim that Mitch McConnell molested me, should he resign? Please tell me it’s that easy.
You’re not understanding the way a liberal mind works:
1. Accuse the other side of something heinous
2. TOTALLY 100% believe it’s a fact
3. Talk about it as if it is true
4. Brush it aside when that same accusation is leveling
against the left
So, in conclusion, the left are hypocrites in every sense of the word. Accusations against them are hearsay, accusations against the right are truth.
Praise be to Obama.............
Hey elitist a-holes, the sexual allegations page of your playbook is on fire.
The ‘outside world’ sees through it.
Because of liberals’ frequent use of smear campaigns against conservative politicians, it is not so surprising that Moore is given the benefit of the doubt especially since the charges against him happened about 30 years ago. It is common for people who have certain vices, continue in these patterns unless they undergo a life-changing conversion of behavior.
The question is not asked in the MSM - that there are no recent charges against the man.
Actually forgiveness is a virtue in Christian circles; consider that among the apostles of Jesus, many were less than perfect. Peter denied Jesus; Thomas was a doubter in the resurrection; and the late-comer, Paul, was a persecutor of the Christian movement. Without forgiveness and hope, there would be no Christian church.
So writers, such as this one, are ignorant of Christian belief.
According to liberals, teen girls having sex and abortions is okay, yet them getting married is an abomination. No consistency to that idea at all.
Ross and Rachel's daughter would have been born in season 8, which would have been in 2004, making her 13 today.
The Emma Green who authored this story received her high school diploma in 2008.
It is not hypocrisy if Roy Moore is innocent.
Moore has vehemently denied the accusations. The accusations are 40 years old. It would easier to believe the accusers if:
* they had come forward any time in the last 40 years and not 4 weeks before a special Senate election.
* they had not be orchestrated by the far left Washington Post.
Of the 6 accusers, 4 don’t allege anything illegal took place. They simply allege that a 30 year old man dated 17 or 18 year old women. The age of consent in Alabama is and was 16. Not really what I would want for my daughter, but this was a small down in the deep south 40 years ago. People magazine regularly celebrates Hollywood actresses in their late teens dating much older men, without a hint of disapproval. And Moore denies even these ‘accusations’.
Of the two more ‘serious’ accusations, one of the women is a democratic operative who was active in the Hillary campaign. And the details of her story have been refuted point by point, by long-time employees of the diner at which the supposed activities took place.
The other was brought forward by long-time democratic operative and serial liar Gloria Alred. She used a clearly forged yearbook signature as her ‘proof’.
Did I mention that Moore has denied the accusations?
No hypocrisy.
It should look like 'innocent until proven guilty' to the Outside world.
Gosh. Our moral betters have already forgotten about this and moved on, haven't they?
I'm still waiting for the Atlantic to condemn Prince Charles for dating and then marrying a teenager, or for them to condemn Hillary Clinton for abusing the child victim of a violent rapist during his trial.
The whole purpose of supporting Judge Roy Moore is to send a message to Mitch McConnell and the GOPe that the status quo of the swamp is no longer acceptable. I for one believe some of the accusations against Moore because of the some of Tennessee Williamesque cultural norms of the deep south at the time. Yet given Moore’s current character, the importance of stopping the establishment, I can forgive any transgressions he may have committed in the name of the greater good.
AMERICA was founded because “the outside world” SUCKS!
I don’t care 1 bit what the world thinks.
Liberals always try the ‘hypocrisy’ thing. This time, it finally backfired. They made such a stink that liberals are being targeted.
There was a mountain of fresh evidence against Bill Clinton, it was rape and assault and harassment and for decades they called the victims liars and sluts.
Carville, Blumenthal and the entire media.
They cannot lecture anyone.
>Gosh. Our moral betters have already forgotten about this and moved on, haven’t they?
At least on reddit they celebrated this killing while bashing the victims. They’re truly disgusting creatures.
There’s a videotape of the services showing the atheist degenerate first gunning people down and then walking up and down the aisles shooting the young children he missed the first time. The left revels in the murder of the innocent.
If the people who wrote these articles knew ANYTHING about the Word of God, they might actually be able to write a coherent article.
I’m an “evangelical Christian” in Alabama who will vote for Roy Moore. How can I do that? The answer is actually pretty simple.
1. Roy Moore has a long career in public office in Alabama. He has ran for, and won, two statewide elections. These charges have never been aired in any of his previous campaigns or controversies.
2. Deuteronomy 19:15 “A single witness shall not rise up against a man on account of any iniquity or any sin which he has committed; on the evidence of two or three witnesses a matter shall be confirmed.” Yes, I recognize this is Old Testament law. However, it sets a precedent of how God wanted government to operate. Under the Law of Moses, this was also governmental regulation, not just religious.
3. Jesus re-iterated this in Matthew 18:15-16 “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that BY THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES EVERY FACT MAY BE CONFIRMED.” Yes, Jesus stated this while he was still under the Law of Moses. He had not yet been put death and raised from the dead. The Old Covenant was still in effect.
4. In Paul’s second letter to the Corinthians, by inspiration he re-iterates and codifies under the New Covenant the same principle. 2Co 12:21 - 13:1 “I am afraid that when I come again my God may humiliate me before you, and I may mourn over many of those who have sinned in the past and not repented of the impurity, immorality and sensuality which they have practiced. This is the third time I am coming to you. EVERY FACT IS TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES.”
5. The significance of these passages? Evangelicals are to take reports of wrong doing with a slight grain of salt. Don’t believe every charge. Make sure it is confirmed, not just one person making a scurrilous charge.
6. Credibility. Do believe Roy Moore or do I believe the Washington Post and Gloria Allred more? I have absolutely no hesitation at all to say I believe Moore more than the WaPo or Allred.
7. In the end, Roy Moore may have committed the allegations charged to him. At this point, I don’t see any proof whatsoever.
8. At this point. There is a reason that a Statute of Limitations is put in place for most crimes. Memories fade. Witnesses move away or die. You don’t wait 38 years to bring forward a “he said, she said” charge.
9. Here in Alabama, we try to use common sense. And we don’t appreciate people from other parts of the country coming down here and chastising and belittling us for trying to use common sense.
We wouldn’t be Christians if we cared about what the outside world thought of us.
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